Stop dropping FHs....

[VonMessa]

The problem isn't the bad guy knocking down my hangar (like you said, I should defend it better).  The problem is the "good" guy doing so.

Knocking down the FHs accomplishes a few things from a "good guy" perspective:

1.  It forces ALL enemy fighters to up from a distant field, and have an Alt/E advantage when they arrive;
2.  IF the base is quickly captured, it means you can't up fighters from it for a few minutes (and if it's so quickly captured, why did you need to knock down the hangars?)
3.  It generally leads to an exodus of the better fighter types (I'll hang around a base capture, but I'm not hanging around for sight seeing)

Really, from a "good guy" perspective, knocking them down just doesn't make that much sense.  At least not usually.  5k "Malta" bases like the one in Trinity (A5 I think?) being the exception to the rule.

Agreed on all points, but especially the second one.

Base capturing and missions are good for the furballers, also.  As I've stated before, it gets defenders to up.  I am more than happy to follow a mission.  I'll even take some ordinance with me, drop it on town, and then proceed to help cap a base.

If the real estate guys want the furballers to put up a cap for them, than leave most of the base buildings intact.  If you drop all FH,  and try to continue the momentum to the next base, it just wont happen.  I, personally am not in the habit of waiting for the toolsheds to come up when there is probably another fight going on somewhere else.

[Bino]

no reason to do it you tools, we dont want the perks from winning the war, we get them by killing your spit 16s and n1ks in 20+ eny birds. STOP THE TOOLSHEDDING!!!!!

Why do you think that you have the right to shout at folks and tell them what to do?

[999000]

I wish I could learn how to play like everbody else....Its lonely being a bomber guy.........There is no love......
999000 <S>

[gyrene81]

I wish I could learn how to play like everbody else....Its lonely being a bomber guy.........There is no love......
999000 <S>

ROFLMAO!!! 

I love flying escort for the egg crates (as long as it's not an NOE suicide run), never know what's going to happen.

[nipper]

In fact, if you're trying to capture a base it makes more sense to flatten the hangers of the adjacent bases to prevent the high alt fighter sweep/cap busters coming in also helping the immediate defence of the newly captured base.

[CAP1]

In fact, if you're trying to capture a base it makes more sense to flatten the hangers of the adjacent bases to prevent the high alt fighter sweep/cap busters coming in also helping the immediate defence of the newly captured base.

heh....last night in mw, if you were below 20k, you were the low guy.


tiffies and 262's all over the place...............








poop

[WWhiskey]

grow some and kill them before they get there   

but it is too much work to fight,, and "defend" against attack, just fly over and surrender your bird to his guns, lol
 the game is here for many reasons!

[waystin2]

Ah Junky my young Pig-o-wan.  Too frustrated you are.  Clearly think you must.  Evil the red side is.

[WWhiskey]

i don,t see how this is any different than having an excellent gv fight at some base, so some sore loser who can,t gv goes and bombs all the gv hangers to stop the fight, yet i don't see anyone besides me complaining about that, o wait i forgot  there are no good gv fights!
   
why do i care? why did i even post? i know what will happen!   oh well

 


 just funnin ya!

[Soulyss]

Field capture is the worst aspect of arena play because the conditions for its success are the opposite of semi-balanced air combat.  Those of you who say it's necessary to precipitate fights could not be more wrong.

Speaking in general terms I'm really no fan of base capture, I could care less who wins the war.  I log on each night hoping beyond hope to find one of those really good fights, the ones that see-saw back and forth with no side getting the fight all the way back to the other's base.... but I digress.

I think base capture is a necessary part of game play, I think it does do a good job of funneling players into a single space that then creates player v player conflict.  Separate arenas I think would be a horrible move on the part of HTC, while it appears to have a lot of momentum and proponents here on the BBS I think they represent a pretty small but vocal part of the community as a whole.  Most players I think enjoy the mix of game play options the current arena affords.  What I would be curious to toy with is a different field and arena set up.  I'd like to see what game play field complexes would yield rather than the single point we have now.  Historically there were several strips within a given area, some people may recall the Fighter 1 strip located a few miles from the main strip at Henderson at Guadalcanal, B-25's strafing Rabaul had to be wary of planes upping from one of the other fields nearby and arriving over head if they lingered too long, etc.

[MORAY37]

I'd like to see what game play field complexes would yield rather than the single point we have now.  Historically there were several strips within a given area, some people may recall the Fighter 1 strip located a few miles from the main strip at Henderson at Guadalcanal, B-25's strafing Rabaul had to be wary of planes upping from one of the other fields nearby and arriving over head if they lingered too long, etc.

A big +1.

The fights would be epic around them, and they would be very difficult to steamroll, by the side that hordes.

[gyrene81]

A big +1.

The fights would be epic around them, and they would be very difficult to steamroll, by the side that hordes.

What's wrong with a horde sweeping bases? It takes numbers if grabbing real estate becomes the nightly goal...happens all the time, just before the channel 200 whining begins.

Wouldn't be very difficult to steam roll a base even if there were auxilliary airfields a few miles away, a coordinated attack en masse would result in ever strategic point being leveled and the auxilliary field hangars would be the first things to get leveled...and you think the "tool shedding" is bad now?

[CAP1]

What's wrong with a horde sweeping bases? It takes numbers if grabbing real estate becomes the nightly goal...happens all the time, just before the channel 200 whining begins.

Wouldn't be very difficult to steam roll a base even if there were auxilliary airfields a few miles away, a coordinated attack en masse would result in ever strategic point being leveled and the auxilliary field hangars would be the first things to get leveled...and you think the "tool shedding" is bad now?

uumm....there ARE bases just a few miles away in most of the maps i see.

[VonMessa]

What's wrong with a horde sweeping bases? It takes numbers if grabbing real estate becomes the nightly goal...happens all the time, just before the channel 200 whining begins.

Wouldn't be very difficult to steam roll a base even if there were auxilliary airfields a few miles away, a coordinated attack en masse would result in ever strategic point being leveled and the auxilliary field hangars would be the first things to get leveled...and you think the "tool shedding" is bad now?

You know it IS possible to overestimate the abilities of your adversaries, as well?   

[Soulyss]

A big +1.

The fights would be epic around them, and they would be very difficult to steamroll, by the side that hordes.

That would be the hope, a single base with dispersed runways and FH to make it harder to close down the field, allow planes to hopefully get a little speed and air under their wings before being forced to engage.  This in turn would keep players upping to fight longer and put off the vulch.  For a player like myself who thinks of base capture as little more than an excuse to put players in the same airspace this idea sounds really really appealing.  But I can also imagine that the flip side to that would just mean bigger hordes flying around the map because that would then be seen as the only solution for the player who's primary interest is the gaining of real estate, I can see how this idea could backfire.