Iwo Jima drawing

[Motherland]

It looks like you drew over the original, or copied it somehow, changing a few details like the flag position. Its "copies of copies" alright.
All that detail and yet you missed the flag position.
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Quite a statement, considering if you actually superimpose the original over his drawing they don't actually line up (The individual details line up almost perfectly and you can actually lose track of where the original is locally, but as a whole the drawing doesn't line up with the original photo... which you would expect from something that isn't traced).




Fantastic work madda. Really amazing.

[maddafinga]

Hey thanks!  I've never tried lining it up, but I'd imagine that it would hold up pretty well.  I appreciate the compliment, and the defence!

[Wraith_TMS]

Madda, you should post your Einstein or your "Dustbowl" drawings as well.  Those are terrific pieces too.

As for the seemingly derogatory comments made by the OP... you've taken the right approach to dealing with them, buddy.  It's an unintended testament to your talent that someone would actually accuse you of it.  Carry on!  

[maddafinga]

Madda, you should post your Einstein or your "Dustbowl" drawings as well.  Those are terrific pieces too.

As for the seemingly derogatory comments made by the OP... you've taken the right approach to dealing with them, buddy.  It's an unintended testament to your talent that someone would actually accuse you of it.  Carry on!  

I will probably post some of the others later.  The dustbowl pic is at my Mom's house and next time I'm there I'll grab it and scan it now that it's complete. 

Now if someone would only accuse me of cheating in the main arena...

[Bodhi]

Madda,
That is some amazing work. 

Pay no mind to the naysayers and know-it-alls.  The world is full of stunninghunks, you just have to ignore them.

[stodd]

Looks great madda! I thought I was looking at a photograph for nearly a minute.  hehe 

[Ack-Ack]

Thanks AKP!  It did take a long time and a good bit of effort to get things just right. I get obsessed on detail easily and can tend to go overboard.  The only pen and ink that I have is this drawing of a panda I did using plain old bic ballpoint pen.  It's a quick and dirty job, took maybe a half an hour (and it shows IMO)
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Edited to add:  Thanks for all the kind words everyone, it makes me feel good when people enjoy my obsessive compulsions. 

For a quick and dirty drawing with only a ball point pen, it sure is an excellent job.  Looks kind of sad being stuck in a tree like that.

I can't wait until you do one of a P-38J *hint* 

ack-ack

[Rich46yo]

See Rule #4

[Ack-Ack]

See Rule #4

[Rich46yo]

See Rule #2

[AKP]

There are enough subtle differences to tell that it isnt a photoshop render of the original photo.  Thank you for bringing up Photoshop though... as it is the PERECT tool to use to show that this wasnt traced, scanned, or rendered from a photo using photoshop or anything like it.  It appears to be, in fact, a scanned original drawing.



I used the helmet as indicated to scale the two images to the same scale.  I then layered the drawing over the photo, reduced its opacity to 30%, and tinted it red to show just how much the drawing differs from the photo.  You will notice, that while I can make certain parts of the two line up, I cannot make anywhere near all of it line up at any time.  There are different angles, sizes, lengths, and none of them are consistent.  While is is DARN CLOSE.... its not perfect... as one would expect from a faked image.

No... its IMPERFECT... just as one would expect a hand drawn picture to be.  I am sure he looked at the original photo while drawing it, and he has a much better sense of scale than I do... but I have seen artists... WHILE THEY ARE DRAWING MIND YOU... that can do JUST THIS!

I would be willing to bet, that since the sense of scale gets more and more off the further from center that you go, that he started drawing the CENTER Marine first... then worked outwards.  While the center Marine is almost dead on to scale, the rest gets further off the farther away from center you get.  Keeping proper scale is DARN HARD when hand copying an actual photo or drawing.

Yeah... photoshop will do a lot.  If you dont like the picture... fine.  Thats your OPINION.  If you think its a fake... thats your OPINION too.  But if you are gonna trash the guy just because... and with no proof... then keep it to yourself. 

Again... great job Madda...

[shreck]

There are enough subtle differences to tell that it isnt a photoshop render of the original photo.  Thank you for bring up Photoshop though... as it is the PERECT tool to use to show that this wasnt traced, scenned, or rendered from a photo using photoshop or anything like it.  It appears to be, in fact, a scanned original drawing.

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I used the helmet as indicated to scale the two images to the same scale.  I then layered the drawing over the photo, reduced its opacity to 30%, and tinted it red to show just how much the drawing differs from the photo.  You will notice, that while I can make certain parts of the two line up, I cannot make anywhere near all of it line up at any time.  There are different angles, sizes, lengths, and none of them are consistent.  While is is DARN CLOSE.... its not perfect... as one would expect from a faked image.

No... its IMPERFECT... just as one would expect a hand drawn picture to be.  I am sure he looked at the original photo while drawing it, and he has a much better sense of scale than I do... but I have seen artists... WHILE THEY ARE DRAWING MIND YOU... that can do JUST THIS!

I would be willing to bet, that since the sense of scale gets more and more off the further from center that you go, that he started drawing the CENTER Marine first... then worked outwards.  While the center Marine is almost dead on to scale, the rest gets further off the farther away from center you get.  Keeping proper scale is DARN HARD when hand copying an actual photo or drawing.

Yeah... photoshop will do a lot.  If you dont like the picture... fine.  Thats your OPINION.  If you think its a fake... thats your OPINION too.  But if you are gonna trash the guy just because... and with no proof... then keep it to yourself. 

Again... great job Madda...

Genius AKP, pure genius   

[AKP]

And here is another way to look at it... with the two images alternating:



You can see that there are MANY things that do not line up, are drawn differently, in different shapes, and in different sizes.

[Shuffler]

Even more excellent since most of my scratchings come out more like this....

[dkff49]

And here is another way to look at it... with the two images alternating:

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You can see that there are MANY things that do not line up, are drawn differently, in different shapes, and in different sizes.

This image shows it much better. The wrinkles are not exactly replicated. They are extremely close but not exact, only in general shape and shading.

The thing to remember is someone who draws things like this generally pay extreme attention to details. Which is the reason that I am not able to draw like this but I know of many that can.

So I say Rich just because you can't draw to this caliber and you have trouble trusting others does not mean that everyone is a liar or cheat. Actually my grandfather had a saying for this, most men who have trouble trusting others are like that because they themselves are not trust worthy.


BTW madda you are a haxxor, CHEATER                                    

excellent drawings I can't wait to see more. Bring it on.