What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[BigPlay]

them BMW lights go back as far as 1996 on the 2000 5 series photo

exactly .......Don't blame Cap though, 1996 is considered a new Bmer where he lives. And Cap the mechanic I use has 2 sides to his operation, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes on one  and Volkswagon and Japanese on the other. He has been my mechinic for 20 years and has been in business for 37. I have to make appointments at least 1 week in advance to get anything done so he's busy year round . But what do stupid people from California know. We can't even tell when were being ripped off.

[CAP1]

them BMW lights go back as far as 1996 on the 2000 5 series photo

really?

96 5 series/




toota was using them first......bmw copied this time. 

[CAP1]

exactly .......Don't blame Cap though, 1996 is considered a new Bmer where he lives. And Cap the mechanic I use has 2 sides to his operation, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes on one  and Volkswagon and Japanese on the other. He has been my mechinic for 20 years and has been in business for 37. I have to make appointments at least 1 week in advance to get anything done so he's busy year round . But what do stupid people from California know. We can't even tell when were being ripped off.

not trying to put your TECH. down......b ut if you were going through a radiator a year, someone was putting cheap watermelon in your truck dude.

 

[jdbecks]

yeah, I agree...its very strange to be going through that many radiators.

[Bronk]

this is what car I would buy, it costs $50,000 its Powered by a Chevrolet 5.7 litre V8, I bet not a single one of your clients will look down on you. Yes its a replcia, but as long as you dont put AC Cobra badges on it, and pass it off as one who cares. Or you could pretend it is one, if I owned her...I would not have any cobra badges or anything.


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that car is so damn sexy, I would turn down any women for a drive in that!

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Anyone who does that to a cobra replica should have his arse removed. That car is ruined.

[CAP1]

Anyone who does that to a cobra replica should have his arse removed. That car is ruined.

 

you seen the factory five kits? they're designed to take the drivetrain from a 5 liter mustang

[Reaper90]

Cap the ZR1 is the only Vette that even comes close to the GT2 and 3 or turbo. The GT is by far a more sophisticated and expensive car then the ZR1 and if I was able to afford a GT then it would be a no brainer.  The standard 911 is in the $70,000 range like the Z06 so I can't see where you price difference is.

Not. Really.

The 911S and the base Corvette w/ the Z51 handling package are about equal performance-wise. Vette wins on $20K lower price tag. 911S has snob-factor advantage, but not worth $20K extra IMHO.

Z06 and 911S are about the same price range, but Z06 KILLS the 911S in all areas.

Z06 Vette and GT3 are pretty much dead-nuts equal and a race on a road course would come down to the driver. GT2 and Turbo will walk the Z06, but they should. That extra $30K has to buy you something.

Now, the ZR1? Its performance MURDERIZES the GT2 and Turbo, and even bested the Carerra GT at the 'Ring by over 2 seconds.

Lap times and performance figures are facts. Subjective opinions are entirely different. You can like the Porsche's build, fit & finish, etc. You can be in love with the 911 styling. You can hate the Vette "image" and "look" if you want to be a sucker for stereotypes. It doesn't matter. It's all your opinion.

The FACT is for the money the Vette, from base, Z51, Z06 up to ZR1, is the best buy anywhere. Period.

[Reaper90]

you seen the factory five kits? they're designed to take the drivetrain from a 5 liter mustang

Funny you mention Factory Five..... cause if I had the money and time right now, it wouldn't be a Cobra replica, but a GTM.......







Approx 2350lbs, powerplants ranging from LS1 up to 427 cu in LS7, Porsche transaxle, Corvette suspension.

Road & Track and C&D tested an LS7 powered version. Track and drag strip times beat everything. Everything. Outperformed Ferrari Enzo, Saleen S7, Ford GT and Carrera GT, and Lambo Murcielago.

0-60 in 3.0 sec, 0-100 in 6.6 sec.

 

[SIK1]

this is what car I would buy, it costs $50,000 its Powered by a Chevrolet 5.7 litre V8, I bet not a single one of your clients will look down on you. Yes its a replcia, but as long as you dont put AC Cobra badges on it, and pass it off as one who cares. Or you could pretend it is one, if I owned her...I would not have any cobra badges or anything.


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that car is so damn sexy, I would turn down any women for a drive in that!

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That's just wrong an efin small block chebby in a cobra replica. Why even bother.

[moot]

lol I would.  What would you do to the interior other then the manufacture has already done? Change seats to a respected seat manufacture is all I would even attempt, maybe a steering wheel but much more would devalue any of the mentioned cars.

No.. Not if you do it right.  Give me a ton of money and I would do it.. The real scarcity is design savvy, not technical (production) limitations.

[jdbecks]

  you guys.

you got to remember, Im from England.. a 2.0 litre 4 clyinder engine is considered big, 5.7 V8..its huge  . It might be small, compared to American standards, but its quite the norm in replicas here.

[Reaper90]

That's just wrong an efin small block chebby in a cobra replica. Why even bother.

Spend a little time around the hotrod scene. Tons of old cars with Blue ovals on the grill and SBC's under the hood.

Personally, if I were to do a Cobra replica, it would be Ford powered. But it's not unusual to see otherwise. If you're not going for the old tech (carb and that '60's look) and making it "retro-rod" then a modern LS-series Chevy beats anything Ford every day of the week. The Ford Modular V8 heads up against an LS Chevy? LS every day of the week.

My Cobra would have a 427 CobraJet.

Bah. I'd build a Grand Sport replica and eat Cobras for din-din.

<--- goes to buy Powerball tickets......

[Reaper90]

you guys.

you got to remember, Im from England.. a 2.0 litre 4 clyinder engine is considered big, 5.7 V8..its huge  . It might be small, compared to American standards, but its quite the norm in replicas here.

Yeh, you tell yourself "this really is big" long enough, you'll even start to believe it!   

Now a 2.0L 4-banger in a Lotus 7 clone? I'd hit that... 

<---- closet Lotus fan

[BigPlay]

Not. Really.

The 911S and the base Corvette w/ the Z51 handling package are about equal performance-wise. Vette wins on $20K lower price tag. 911S has snob-factor advantage, but not worth $20K extra IMHO.

Z06 and 911S are about the same price range, but Z06 KILLS the 911S in all areas.

Z06 Vette and GT3 are pretty much dead-nuts equal and a race on a road course would come down to the driver. GT2 and Turbo will walk the Z06, but they should. That extra $30K has to buy you something.

Now, the ZR1? Its performance MURDERIZES the GT2 and Turbo, and even bested the Carerra GT at the 'Ring by over 2 seconds.

Lap times and performance figures are facts. Subjective opinions are entirely different. You can like the Porsche's build, fit & finish, etc. You can be in love with the 911 styling. You can hate the Vette "image" and "look" if you want to be a sucker for stereotypes. It doesn't matter. It's all your opinion.

The FACT is for the money the Vette, from base, Z51, Z06 up to ZR1, is the best buy anywhere. Period.

where's this info from because I read an artical in I think road and track while in the doctors where they were comparing the GT a Ferrari, Lambo and the ZR1 and although the ZR1 was competive performance wise (not the front runner) it got last place in everything else.

maybe a little more but I'm sure resale plus life of car is worth the extra price.



2010 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Coupe Coupes (7.0L V8 505HP) $74,285
2010 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Coupe Coupes (6.2L V8 638HP) $106,880
2010 Chevrolet Corvette Base Coupe Coupes (6.2L V8 430HP) $48,930
2010 Chevrolet Corvette Base Convertible Convertibles (6.2L V8 430HP) $53,580
2009 Chevrolet Corvette Base Convertible Convertibles (6.2L V8 430HP) $53,220
2009 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Coupe Coupes (7.0L V8 505HP) $73,925
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Coupe Coupes (6.2L V8 638HP) $103,970

2010 prices
Porsche's mid-engine roadster $46,600 - $56,700  
Cayman  Porsche's mid-engine coupe $50,300 - $60,200
911  Porsche's sports car icon $76,300 - $140,700    
Cayenne  Porsche's sporty SUV $45,000 - $124,800  

[KgB]

yea......'cause i've never had my mustang above 150mph. ooo....wait......yes i did. easily.


 and factory training means poop. that's like being book smart, compared to street smart. i can, and do fix anything in my bays. and i do it well. real world is what's formed my opinions, and nothing else.

I hope you will agree with me that some high end cars you wont know what to do with without factory training. And vise versa, for example, i cant possibly compete with your general car knowledge, welding skills .....list goes on. It comes with  experience.