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WGr21 gunsights
« on: September 01, 2009, 03:43:56 PM »
Brutally ripped from squadmate Baumers thread on private BBS.

I have made a gun sight for the WGr21 rockets. They are the German air to air rockets on the  Bf109G-2/6/14, Bf 110G-2, and Fw190A-5 & 8. I've developed a couple different versions and I've posted them below.






Just copy them into the sights folder in the HTC directory.

They are still rather difficult to use so I'll explain the setup a bit.

I approach from behind and above the bombers, trying to line up on the center plane. Combat Trim is enabled and avoid using any rudder for best results. Closing rate and range are critical to getting a good shot. I try to come in at 400 mph true if possible, and hope the bomber is going full speed. The bar is equal to the wingspan of a B-24 at 1200 yards, when they match that's when you fire. The B-17 and Lancaster have a slightly narrower wingspan, so fire just before they are as wide as the bar. Another good indicator for when to fire is when the range to target goes from -1.5 to -1 in the icon.

I've attached a screen shot of the proper firing position


Baumer did you have a dedicated 110 sight also?


 



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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 04:04:21 PM »
a truly great example of why aces high is a great game. i go to the trainer arena with a question about 110gs rockets. and i get this thread posted by Ghosth in no less than 5 minutes. honestly thats what i call service. <<S>> Ghosth!

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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 06:05:51 PM »
So THAT'S what you guys were talking about...
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 11:27:50 PM »
There is no need to have a gunsite for the WGr21 on the Me110. Just come in right behind the bombers at around 300 TAS and bellybutton soon as the icon goes from 1.5k to 1.0k fire all four rockets in quick secsession and you'll get the whole formation. To aim just put the lead bomber in that little dip in the gunsite holder. That method is so precise that Iv actually had rockets make contact with bombers on several occasions.
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 12:57:12 AM »
Yea search for Rockets vs. bombers.  Aim high and at about 1.5 to 1k. The proxy fuse takes care of the rest.
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 12:19:07 PM »
WGr21s don't have a proxy fuse.
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 01:05:55 PM »
sombody said they did.  Bad info......sorry.  I guess i'm just that good :D
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 02:19:44 PM »
The rockets don't use the same fuse as our 5 inchers in the game?

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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 02:24:38 PM »
The rockets don't use the same fuse as our 5 inchers in the game?
Nope.

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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 04:35:47 PM »
Yeah, I hear they are time-delay...not proxy fuse.
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 02:43:55 PM »
sorry about the neco bump but ghosth can you repost them  :pray
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2010, 03:05:27 PM »
sorry about the neco bump but ghosth can you repost them  :pray

Seconded!  ;)
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 03:33:51 PM »
There is no need to have a gunsite for the WGr21 on the Me110. Just come in right behind the bombers at around 300 TAS and bellybutton soon as the icon goes from 1.5k to 1.0k fire all four rockets in quick secsession and you'll get the whole formation. To aim just put the lead bomber in that little dip in the gunsite holder. That method is so precise that Iv actually had rockets make contact with bombers on several occasions.

Do it enough times, you don't even have to fire all your rockets. It's a blast, pun intended, though to watch the bombers go down in flames, without them having a chance to return fire.

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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2010, 07:56:03 PM »
WGr21 rockets have a 1000yd fuze, as well as an impact fuze.

Also, fix the links to your pics, and please give us a link to where we can download your gunsites.
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Re: WGr21 gunsights
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2010, 08:26:50 PM »
Actually I've lost track of them. You'd have to ask Baumer, he's the artist.