Just how effective is the IL2 without the 37mm...

[Fencer51]

Great Guys, thanks alot.

What's your opinion on the Fw 190F-8 against vehicles?

[Lusche]

Great Guys, thanks alot.

What's your opinion on the Fw 190F-8 against vehicles?

The PB-1 rockets can kill any vehicle... but getting a hit is difficult. You need a lot of practice for that.

[MjTalon]

The PB-1 rockets can kill any vehicle... but getting a hit is difficult. You need a lot of practice for that.

Spot a GV, line up a low level run front rear to front, fly near the ground about 200ft, salvo 3 rockets off at D400-600 as soon as the tank goes under your gunsight, 85% of the time you'll score a hit unless you alter anything at the last minute. I'll film a F8 run on a GV a little later.

[Anaxogoras]

190F-8 vs GV's:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ymojmnjmygj

Ahhh, shux, does this film no longer work because it's from an earlier version of AH?

[Lusche]

Spot a GV, line up a low level run front rear to front, fly near the ground about 200ft, salvo 3 rockets off at D400-600 as soon as the tank goes under your gunsight, 85% of the time you'll score a hit unless you alter anything at the last minute. I'll film a F8 run on a GV a little later.

It'S still much more difficult method than using the guns of a Il-2 or Hurri D.

[Rich46yo]

i actual life the most effective weapon of the IL2 was probably the PTAB bomblet, an early version of cluster bomb.

The IL2 carried a couple hundred internally and decimated tank columns with them. Heres a pic of a Yak-9B dropping them from its internal bay

Boy imagine the howling we'd get from the LowRiders if we started tossing them out. The PTAB was rated for up to a 70mm penetration of top armor that often was only 25mm max.

A pic of IL2 ammo

And last a tank drivers worst nightmare

[Hawk55]

190F-8 vs GV's:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ymojmnjmygj

Ahhh, shux, does this film no longer work because it's from an earlier version of AH?

It works just fine Gav...impressive rocket work!  

[Anaxogoras]

My film viewer crashes whenever I try to view it.  I'm glad it works for you.

[SmokinLoon]

The IL-2 with eather set of AP cannons wouldnt be jack-squat if the same principles were applied to it like all the other attack aircraft (no external view).  It isnt any more of an aircraft that deserves external view than the 110x or Mossi.

There is no negative, no risk in taking the IL-2 up.  None.  Oh, and the ENY of the IL-2??? 
 

[E25280]

The IL-2 with eather set of AP cannons wouldnt be jack-squat if the same principles were applied to it like all the other attack aircraft (no external view).  It isnt any more of an aircraft that deserves external view than the 110x or Mossi.

There is no negative, no risk in taking the IL-2 up.  None.  Oh, and the ENY of the IL-2??? 
 

Aside from the fact that the 110 and the version of the Mossie we have were both fighters . . .

Not sure how it computes that the AP effectiveness vs. a ground target has anything to do with external view??

[Anaxogoras]

smokinloon, when you write like that, even if what you said were true, no one will find you credible.

[Rich46yo]

The IL-2 with eather set of AP cannons wouldnt be jack-squat if the same principles were applied to it like all the other attack aircraft (no external view).  It isnt any more of an aircraft that deserves external view than the 110x or Mossi.

There is no negative, no risk in taking the IL-2 up.  None.  Oh, and the ENY of the IL-2??? 
 

And the risk of taking up any other cartoon airplane is exactly what ? Boy that was a silly comment.

Mossie and 110 has far,far,far better internal views. BTW the Mossie doesnt have F3 view Maybe you should fly the airplane before making silly statements. The Mossie/110 are also much faster, turn better, climb better, and have far better plane vs plane armament.

Whats wrong boo-boo? Your wittle tiger get all blowed up?

[Lusche]

The IL-2 with eather set of AP cannons wouldnt be jack-squat if the same principles were applied to it like all the other attack aircraft (no external view). 

Penetration and external view are connected to each other in which way?

[Bronk]

The IL-2 with eather set of AP cannons wouldnt be jack-squat if the same principles were applied to it like all the other attack aircraft (no external view).  It isnt any more of an aircraft that deserves external view than the 110x or Mossi.

There is no negative, no risk in taking the IL-2 up.  None.  Oh, and the ENY of the IL-2??? 
 

So please explain how external view increases cannon power?

Ohh and just a little info.  I (and I'm sure lusche) can take out just about any GV in game with a hurri IId. Which by the way has no external view, much  much smaller clip and a lower velocity cannon.

Boy.. if only the hurr IId had external some of us could really clean up. 

[Noir]

that Vicker S shell is certainly huge tho