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Offline Angus

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Re: The red baron
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 08:27:16 AM »
Try finding "Those magnificent men in their flying machines (1965)" and enjoy.
No air combat, and some sorry cuttings, but none the less a very impressive movie with actual footage of actually flying kites predating 1910 or so!!! (well they were built new but...)
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 08:37:55 AM »
What I don't understand is why the feel the need to inject a love story into a freaking war movie.  Most guys I know have seen a movie about a war and said "it was a good movie and all, but it would have been better if there was a love story."  Just makes no sense to me.
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Offline Saxman

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 09:23:27 AM »
Quote from: allaire on October 08, 2009, 08:37:55 AM
What I don't understand is why the feel the need to inject a love story into a freaking war movie.  Most guys I know have seen a movie about a war and said "it was a good movie and all, but it would have been better if there was a love story."  Just makes no sense to me.

Because they want to bring in the female audience.
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Offline alskahawk

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 02:02:47 PM »
 Von Richthofen and Brown (1971) was on last night. The plot was bad. Historically very inaccurate. But there were some good aircraft in it, some good flying sequences. Some D7s, Pfalz D3s(?) DR1s.
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Re: The red baron
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2009, 02:51:24 PM »
Quote from: -tronski- on October 07, 2009, 06:29:28 AM
Were all the germans flying red Triplanes, but the main bad guy flying a green/black one who bought it with a single revolver shot to the head?

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Wasnt that from the movie FlyBoys?  Saw something on the Discovery channel. Where they tried redoing the last flight of Rictofen. Were saying  the shot to his chest possibly came from a field gunner?
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Offline Saxman

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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 02:53:51 PM »
Yes, but as I said I believe that scene was based on an actual incident. I want to think it was Frank Luke who did it, (which is who the character was based on, incidentally) but I'm not sure.
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2009, 09:44:28 PM »
Quote from: crazyivan on October 08, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
Wasnt that from the movie FlyBoys?  Saw something on the Discovery channel. Where they tried redoing the last flight of Rictofen. Were saying  the shot to his chest possibly came from a field gunner?

A doctor who examined him said the fatal shot came from below Richthofen, entering around the hip/buttock area, and exited the chest on an upward trajectory. According to Brown's report, he could not have fired such a shot. An Australian gun crew claimed to have hit the red Dr.1 as it flew over them in pursuit of a Sopwith Camel. Brown claimed to have fired from above and behind, and said the pilot looked around at him in surprise. Brown never claimed to have been that far below the Dr.1.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2009, 10:25:40 PM »
I also believe that Brown never claimed the kill, it was awarded to him.
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2009, 03:24:04 AM »
Quote from: crazyivan on October 08, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
Wasnt that from the movie FlyBoys?  Saw something on the Discovery channel. Where they tried redoing the last flight of Rictofen. Were saying  the shot to his chest possibly came from a field gunner?

It was indeed Flyboys (terrible awful movie) and Australian lewis gunners from 11th or 40th Battalion AIF most likely got him

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Re: The red baron
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2009, 07:59:56 AM »
Damn triple-A always ruins the good fights. ;)
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Offline Angus

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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2009, 08:37:16 AM »
A lovestory tangled with a warmovie is very common, - as wild affairs under the threat of death every day indeed is.
Manfred was somewhat stiff on his job though. Lothar = more colourful ;)

BTW, one WW2 pilot famous for his chase and success with women was...Marseille ;)
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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2009, 10:08:36 AM »
Quote from: Angus on October 09, 2009, 08:37:16 AM
A lovestory tangled with a warmovie is very common, - as wild affairs under the threat of death every day indeed is.
Manfred was somewhat stiff on his job though. Lothar = more colourful ;)
Interesting context for the word 'stiff.'
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Offline Angus

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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2009, 11:03:13 AM »
Okay, let's try...."wooden"  :devil
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2009, 12:05:30 PM »
Quote from: RufusLeaking on October 09, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
Interesting context for the word 'stiff.'
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