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Offline Krusty

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P-47M loadout? DTs?
« on: October 08, 2009, 09:26:21 PM »
So in all the P-47M threads over the years, I thought the general concensus was they almost never had the wing DTs, because they wanted more speed (which the wing racks took away)?

Also, the overload ammo was used only for ground strafing duties on P-47D models (the D being the first model capable of carrying more than 270 rpg). The Ms never did any ground attack work, and carrying around all that extra weight would have been counter-productive, no? Does that mean the M never carried this ammo loadout?

Shouldn't it only have 2 weapons options, one for 6 guns, one for 8? Rather than the 4 gun options?

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 10:08:34 PM »
So in all the P-47M threads over the years, I thought the general concensus was they almost never had the wing DTs, because they wanted more speed (which the wing racks took away)?

Krusty, all of the 56th's P-47Ms were retrofitted with pylons and belly shackles for drop tanks. Initially, the fighters were delivered to the group without the wing pylons. After the surrender, most of the fighters had the pylons removed. With or without the wing pylons, all were capable of carrying belly tanks.






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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2009, 10:20:01 PM »
That's an interesting point about the centerline. I may have overlooked it in-game, but don't recall seeing the option for one.

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2009, 10:33:03 PM »
That's an interesting point about the centerline. I may have overlooked it in-game, but don't recall seeing the option for one.

Nope, the option for the belly tank is not included.. Would be nice to have though.

By the way, P-47Ms could carry ordnance. However, I can't find a single photo of an M with bombs aboard. I know the 56th's D models did haul bombs, but I have no evidence that the Ms ever did (in combat). That's probably why HTC elected not to offer that option.


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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2009, 11:17:18 PM »
I can find anecdotes describing strafing missions that the 56th performed with the M, but no bombing missions.  Regardless, the pylons were the same, so I'm sure they could carry them.  Ultimately, as far as in-game goes, I'm glad they left off the ord, so the bomb-truckers suicide porking bases don't screw up the final ENY number of the aircraft.
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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2009, 08:15:19 AM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 08:48:55 AM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.

That would be really nice of you to add the belly tank as an option.  On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up?  :headscratch:

Thanks again for adding another a/c to the line-up!  :salute


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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2009, 09:24:03 AM »
That would be really nice of you to add the belly tank as an option.  On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up?  :headscratch:

Thanks again for adding another a/c to the line-up!  :salute

I noticed that too and was wondering the same thing.  Was thinking it should be fighter only.
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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2009, 10:02:42 AM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.

My my.....that sounds like a good excuse for a perked ordnance system.

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2009, 10:21:25 AM »
As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 10:26:55 AM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.

I'd leave the ord off as there is no source to suggest it carried it in wartime.  For what it's worth I think your reasoning for leaving it off is good Pyro
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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2009, 01:52:53 PM »
I'd leave the ord off as there is no source to suggest it carried it in wartime.  For what it's worth I think your reasoning for leaving it off is good Pyro

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2009, 01:54:34 PM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.


I notice on the other 47s we only get the 75 gal centerline. Any option of adding the larger centerline, the 108 gal, the 150gal, or even the 200 gal centerline tanks? I mean, now that one of the recent updates increased the upper limit on weapons options (or whatever the term for it was)? Is that something we might see?

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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 10:07:43 AM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
I like that...it leaves the D models getting usage as the best bomb-trucks, considering N's horrific climb rate with ord.....not sure exactly what role N gets now, up until now, I used it as my fighter ride, but after last night, I think it's gonna be the M, eny aside
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Re: P-47M loadout? DTs?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 12:07:24 PM »
I can add the belly tanks.  On the ordnance, I was torn.  Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available.  As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
Good reasoning IMO.  But then . . .

On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up?  :headscratch:
. . . makes complete sense.
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