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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #180 on: June 10, 2010, 12:45:10 PM »
No, it's just not immersive at all.  It doesn't feel like a war is going on.  Even when it was populated, it never felt right.
Point made, and Im not disagreeing with you but the immersion kicked in for me last night when both Worm and I in D7s had the most incredibly hard time taking down AKRaven also in a D7.  Rav was willingly going 1v2 with us, and Worm being one of the best in there so far, with me being no slouch, and AKRaven was just handing us our asses.  Doing incredible things with the D7.  It was the most insane fun time (aka immersive) I have had in ages playing this game.  There were just the 3 of us in there and NO Dr1s.  Who knows....but I do agree with you, there really needs to be more happening.  More opportunities.  Still, I had a ball last night.  
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #181 on: June 12, 2010, 03:14:18 PM »
A Korean War Arena Would be nice as it was also a major turning point in areal warfare.

for example
WW1 planes where spotters and Fighter Planes only developed to Shoot Either sides spotter planes down.

WW2 planes where the first true mono wing and fast highly monuoverable Aircraft. thus new dogfighting tactics had to be developed.

Korea planes are now jets an capable of 500mph or above ( thanks to Germany ). this is new for pilots from WW2 and they had to relearn alot of new                              tactics. Like how to pull even more lead whilst combating more G-force.

Vietnam  Pilots now became dependant on missiles. So They now had to be trained in dogfighting an using their missles to the best of their abilities. And fly against an airforce with smaller faster an better aircraft.

You see all conflicts From WW1 to the present day are monumental to the history of war and the men and machines who used them.
now if hitech creations do a Korean war theatre It should be looked on as a monument to the men who fought in Korea.
As i believe that was the main intention of Ace's High to be a lasting shrine to the men and women Of WW1 and WW2.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #182 on: June 12, 2010, 11:52:05 PM »
NO!  WWI arena did not take off that well and really doupt the Korea war Arena too.


Agreed. And who the hell brought this thread back from the grave  :cry?
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #183 on: June 13, 2010, 01:34:37 AM »

Agreed. And who the hell brought this thread back from the grave  :cry?

Now, i could be wrong with it not taking off.  BulletVI and grizz do make a point of why WWI arena did not take off well and the ideal of jets would change your skills in a whole new level, except of those that fly the heck out of the 262. 
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #184 on: June 13, 2010, 01:46:48 PM »
Yes, but my bet is that once the "new" wears off, the base takers will leave because there is nothing to do. The dedicated bomber hunters will leave because there is nothing in the arena they can shoot down. And finally most of the fighter pilots will leave because most of their targets have already left.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #185 on: June 14, 2010, 11:17:32 AM »
Korea war would not just bring new aircraft, but also new generation of tanks, troop transports, carrier groups and support vehicles.....etc. Which could evolve  into more than just a air battle like in WWI arena. In turn could be similar to WW2 arenas.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #186 on: June 16, 2010, 06:52:28 PM »
The speed differential is not as lopsided and there are more than two planes that are competitive.  The F-86 would be used for far more than 50% of the flights.  If it was like the MA it would basically be F-86s vs F-86s.  If it were done on historical sides it would be a bunch of F-86s looking for the one schmuck who upped a MiG-15.

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Seriously, though, I disagree with your assertion that it would be all F-86's versus F-86's. Sure, some of it would be that way, just as there's lots of folks in the MA's now who fly Spit 16's, LA-7's, and the like exclusively. But there's also a HUGE number of pilots who don't want to just hold alt, then dive down picking everything in sight, then run away and do it again. Those are the folks that would figure out a way to make the underrated planes be competitive with the higher-performance ones, just as they do now in P-40's, P-39's, Spit and Hurri I's, and so forth. The folks who will turn on a diving P-51 in a Mossie with an engine out and half the plane shot off, and still kick his butt. I think you underestimate the stubbornness of many of the pilots here, who stick to their favorite planes no matter what the enemies are doing, and get lots of kills and have good fights and lots of fun, which is what the game is about, at least to me.

All that being said, I would only like to see a Korea arena AFTER we get the WWII planeset properly done, as there are still some decent-sized gaps there. (And I want my P-40N and P-63!)  :pray
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #187 on: June 16, 2010, 07:47:27 PM »
I would only like to see a Korea arena AFTER we get the WWII planeset properly done, as there are still some decent-sized gaps there.

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« Reply #188 on: June 16, 2010, 09:47:31 PM »
All that being said, I would only like to see a Korea arena AFTER we get the WWII planeset properly done, as there are still some decent-sized gaps there. (And I want my P-40N and P-63!)  :pray

So in like... 10 years.

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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #189 on: June 16, 2010, 10:32:58 PM »
I call the schmuck slot! EAT 37MM!
 :rock

Seriously, though, I disagree with your assertion that it would be all F-86's versus F-86's. Sure, some of it would be that way, just as there's lots of folks in the MA's now who fly Spit 16's, LA-7's, and the like exclusively. But there's also a HUGE number of pilots who don't want to just hold alt, then dive down picking everything in sight, then run away and do it again. Those are the folks that would figure out a way to make the underrated planes be competitive with the higher-performance ones, just as they do now in P-40's, P-39's, Spit and Hurri I's, and so forth. The folks who will turn on a diving P-51 in a Mossie with an engine out and half the plane shot off, and still kick his butt. I think you underestimate the stubbornness of many of the pilots here, who stick to their favorite planes no matter what the enemies are doing, and get lots of kills and have good fights and lots of fun, which is what the game is about, at least to me.

All that being said, I would only like to see a Korea arena AFTER we get the WWII planeset properly done, as there are still some decent-sized gaps there. (And I want my P-40N and P-63!)  :pray
How many North Korea fans do you think post here?  I know many people who think the German WWII stuff looks cool and neat, people who like the elegance of the fading British Empire, people gung ho for the rising power of the United States of America (the one thing that is retained in for Korea) even people who like the overt power and power of the Soviet Motherland (in the context of the Red Army's desperate fight with Germany) or the Eastern exoticism of a non-Western power risen to actually take on Western nations on some semblance of an even fight.

I do not know of a single person on this forum or in reality who has even the slightest affection for North Korea.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #190 on: June 17, 2010, 10:53:19 PM »
I do not know of a single person on this forum or in reality who has even the slightest affection for North Korea.

I would tend to agree. But that seems to be a bit off subject. I don't go out yelling about how awesome Germany is anytime I up a Luftwaffe plane, it has no bearing on why I'm flying it. I don't fly planes because I like who they are affiliated with. I fly them because the planes themselves are what I like. If it was the other way around, with the U.S. flying MiGs and the NK flying Sabres, I'd still want to fly the MiG, just beacause I find it cool. If the F-9F was included I'd fly it too, cause I've had a model of one for ages and love how it looks. I don't think folks right now fly Luftwaffe and Red Air Force planes because they think the respective countries are cool, it's all about the planes, imho.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #191 on: June 18, 2010, 12:51:15 AM »
I would tend to agree. But that seems to be a bit off subject. I don't go out yelling about how awesome Germany is anytime I up a Luftwaffe plane, it has no bearing on why I'm flying it. I don't fly planes because I like who they are affiliated with. I fly them because the planes themselves are what I like. If it was the other way around, with the U.S. flying MiGs and the NK flying Sabres, I'd still want to fly the MiG, just beacause I find it cool. If the F-9F was included I'd fly it too, cause I've had a model of one for ages and love how it looks. I don't think folks right now fly Luftwaffe and Red Air Force planes because they think the respective countries are cool, it's all about the planes, imho.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #192 on: June 18, 2010, 01:04:00 AM »
Korea war would not just bring new aircraft, but also new generation of tanks, troop transports, carrier groups and support vehicles.....etc. Which could evolve  into more than just a air battle like in WWI arena. In turn could be similar to WW2 arenas.


Give it 10 or so years for AH to develop 1/4 of that.
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #193 on: June 19, 2010, 12:31:37 AM »
Yes, you don't care if it is the MiG or the Sabre, just that it is American.

Thus you end up in an arena full of F-86 Sabres.

How exactly did you derive that from the post of mine that you quoted, as I was saying the exact opposite?  :huh
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Re: Korea War - Plane set - New Arena?
« Reply #194 on: June 19, 2010, 02:15:48 AM »
How many North Korea fans do you think post here?  I know many people who think the German WWII stuff looks cool and neat, people who like the elegance of the fading British Empire, people gung ho for the rising power of the United States of America (the one thing that is retained in for Korea) even people who like the overt power and power of the Soviet Motherland (in the context of the Red Army's desperate fight with Germany) or the Eastern exoticism of a non-Western power risen to actually take on Western nations on some semblance of an even fight.

I do not know of a single person on this forum or in reality who has even the slightest affection for North Korea.

I had some affection when their striker was  :cry  during the national anthem. 

Korea?  jets?  go play lock on and leave HT doing what he does best WW2 and more planes / re-models!!!
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