Perk the N1K2-J

[Rich46yo]

Dont see as many Nikis by far nowadays. When I first started playing it was all you saw.

Now? The sky is full of Mustangs, 190s, and of course Spit-16s. On the next level of sightseeing I'd put Corsairs, P-47s, 109s "75% K4s", Nikis. After that P-38s, LA-7s, Typhies, Hellcats, other Spits...ect

Im probably wrong about some cause I mostly play defense, and am bound to see more pick & runners. But when I first started playing the Niki was easily in the first category with Spit-16s and Mustangs. Some nights in LW, like last night, you seem to go all night without seeing a 10 eny & under airplane. If your lucky you might find a K4 and if you do, like last night, they are probably very good.

This L/W tour the Niki has accounted for about 25,000 K/Ds. Tour 116 even less. Two years ago this month, LW Tour 93, it accounted for about 56,000. Tour 94 about 63,000 K/Ds. The sky used to be full of Nikis. And back then LW K/D tallies were in the 1,300,000 range. Now, for whatever reason, were usually in the 1,000,000 range. Even still one see's far less Nikis. On defense I hardly ever see them.

So it would seem out of less flying LWAs, far less are flying Nikis. My gut tells me the game has gone more to the speed style. The pick and run style. The B&Z style. The Jug family might even be ready to punch over the Mustang as King of this style.

And LA-7s? 2 years ago in LW they posted in the 63,000 K/D range and so far this tour, which is almost over, they are about 20,000. They just dont have the Legs for the big maps.

The Niki has weaknesses players have learned to exploit. Also I think a lot of the serious Niki sticks have moved on to other planes.

[Lusche]

He asked to either perk the N1K2 or UNperk the Charlie. He's either extending his whine to the Mains, where the Charlie IS perked, or else he's completely confused.

Completely confused.

[Reaper90]

My gut tells me the game has gone more to the speed style. The pick and run style. The B&Z style. The Jug family might even be ready to punch over the Mustang as King of this style.

This.

[BnZs]

What defanged the N1K was the new 3d model that no longer allowed for the extremely gamey over the nose view with the mouse as a gunsight.

I'd say this probably the truest answer. Because otherwise there is nothing wrong with the N1K that wasn't wrong with it before. I never saw a good case for it being ENY 5.

[Saurdaukar]

I'd say this probably the truest answer. Because otherwise there is nothing wrong with the N1K that wasn't wrong with it before. I never saw a good case for it being ENY 5.

See Lute's comment.

Prior to the FM change, the NIKI's vertical performance - specifically its ability to seemingly hang on the prop indefinately - pushed the laws of physics a tad.

T'was like an AH64 with four 20mm cannon pointing out of the main rotor hub.

[BnZs]

See Lute's comment.

Prior to the FM change, the NIKI's vertical performance - specifically its ability to seemingly hang on the prop indefinately - pushed the laws of physics a tad.

T'was like an AH64 with four 20mm cannon pointing out of the main rotor hub.

I was speaking of the change where it got its graphical update...are we referring to some earlier N1K version?

[Saurdaukar]

I was speaking of the change where it got its graphical update...are we referring to some earlier N1K version?

Yes.  Prior to the graphical update, there was a change to the flight modelling of the A/C.

Prior to the FM update, the whines about the N1K's performance eclipsed today's whines about the Spit 16 by leaps and bounds.

Depending on the effectiveness of Skuzzy's Mao-like BBS purges, you might be able to read some of the old threads from... what... 2004/2005-ish, maybe?  Dont recall when the update was done... I only remember the day my hanger no longer had an option titled "Bf-109G-10." 

[Karnak]

Yes.  Prior to the graphical update, there was a change to the flight modelling of the A/C.

Prior to the FM update, the whines about the N1K's performance eclipsed today's whines about the Spit 16 by leaps and bounds.

Depending on the effectiveness of Skuzzy's Mao-like BBS purges, you might be able to read some of the old threads from... what... 2004/2005-ish, maybe?  Dont recall when the update was done... I only remember the day my hanger no longer had an option titled "Bf-109G-10." 

The FM change had almost no effect on the N1K2-J's usage though, so I think you are reaching at straws.  The N1K2-J's usage tanked only with the 3D model update.

[waystin2]

No need to perk a thing in the AVA.

[Saurdaukar]

The FM change had almost no effect on the N1K2-J's usage though, so I think you are reaching at straws.  The N1K2-J's usage tanked only with the 3D model update.

Color me confused.  The only claim Ive made is that the change to the N1K's FM neutered its performance.

Since it did - and since Ive made no comments about usage - Im not sure how Im reaching for anything.

Heck, Im not even making an arguement; only deseminating information.

[Karnak]

Sorry, misunderstood where you were going.

[fbEagle]

The niki is a fine plane... it is also quite easy to kill... so stop complaning...

[Krusty]

The FM change had almost no effect on the N1K2-J's usage though, so I think you are reaching at straws.  The N1K2-J's usage tanked only with the 3D model update.

It was with the 3D update that the FM changes took effect. Many folks felt it couldn't hold a turn like it used to.

This is also true of the LA7 and its graphical update. They're almost (dare I say it??) rare these days, compared to how they used to fly. Very subtle changes that totally change the overall lethality of the plane.

Folks moved onto the super-fubar flight model of the spit16 and spit8 instead.

I see it (by that I mean I predict it) happening more and more as the older 3D models are updated, and along with it minor FM tweaks to the higher-fidelity flight system.

[Karnak]

It was with the 3D update that the FM changes took effect. Many folks felt it couldn't hold a turn like it used to.

They are talking about a change that happened long before that.  As you may have noted, Saurdaukar commented that the change happened when they updated the Bf109s and he lost his Bf109G-10.


And you still have not provided any evidence at all that the Spit XVI, and now I see you've added the Spit VIII, flight model is wrong.  You just whine about them because they are effective.

[Saurdaukar]

...that the change happened when they updated the Bf109s and he lost his Bf109G-10.

For the record, I do not recall exactly when the FM was changed.  May have been with the 109 line upgrade or not.