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Offline Rich46yo

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Yak-9T...under-rated?
« on: November 12, 2009, 09:05:51 PM »
Ive been upping this aircraft a lot lately. Pretty much all my Yak time had been in -9Us.

I'm leaning towards the T for base defense. It has tank busting ability and is very agile kept around 200 mph or better against fighters. No I wouldn't call it a "great fighter" but its not helpless. it is, after all, still a Yak.

While its front heavy it feel pretty decent when trimmed up a bit. I dont have to much a problem keeping its nose up. It climbs decent, dives decent 'tho you will pop a flap if you come down to fast". It turns on a dime at its best turning speed and rolls well. Of course the NS-37 cannon is its main selling point. And its murder against M3s, 251s, jeeps, Panzers, and most of all PTs and LVTs. I have no problem attacking tanks in it but the T-34s I will leave to my own tankers. They are just to tough. The single MG is fine for spritzing troops.

The main trick to it is keeping the proper speed on your GV attack run. I like to shoot point blank and if your to slow your going to lose control and auger. To fast and your not going to recover. Shooting GVs in a fighter like that, point blank, is harder then with an IL-2. Your shooting less round with less hitting power and its takes discipline to break off for another run at it. Ive ended up bug splat thru greed.

The -9T is an awsome perk collector. All in all it reminds me of handymans tool you use all over the house. This is a great tool & airplane. Your thoughts?
« Last Edit: November 12, 2009, 09:10:47 PM by Rich46yo »
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 09:13:00 PM »
100chewi knows bit about the YAK........thats for sure!

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 09:17:31 PM »
It is one of the best base de-ackers you will find 1 round per auto ack & you only have to get that 37MM close to pop it.

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 10:22:58 PM »
It's a mediocre plane with an interesting gun.

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 10:24:30 PM »
It is one of the best base de-ackers you will find 1 round per auto ack & you only have to get that 37MM close to pop it.

All true,

though I find the 47n superior in AAA plinking from 3km with rockets. I have little to no issue hitting 5 autos in 1 pass if the geometry works out.


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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 11:06:25 PM »
It's a mediocre plane with an interesting gun.

Its a 30 eny airplane. At 3k, with full gas, I got one up to 340 mph. One shot from the cannon will down any fighter. Its murder on bombers.

I wouldnt call it "mediocre". When used to its strengths its very useful. I consider it a defense only fighter. Once you run out of cannon rounds your pretty much helpless. Im not aware of any other fighter that can cleanly take a tank out with guns alone.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 11:24:09 PM »

I wouldnt call it "mediocre".

I would.

It's called an opinion. You asked for one (thoughts?) . I gave it.

Unless this is 'rich defends the -9T against the world' thread. In which case carry on.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 11:52:28 PM »
Ive been upping this aircraft a lot lately. Pretty much all my Yak time had been in -9Us.

I'm leaning towards the T for base defense. It has tank busting ability and is very agile kept around 200 mph or better against fighters. No I wouldn't call it a "great fighter" but its not helpless. it is, after all, still a Yak.

While its front heavy it feel pretty decent when trimmed up a bit. I dont have to much a problem keeping its nose up. It climbs decent, dives decent 'tho you will pop a flap if you come down to fast". It turns on a dime at its best turning speed and rolls well. Of course the NS-37 cannon is its main selling point. And its murder against M3s, 251s, jeeps, Panzers, and most of all PTs and LVTs. I have no problem attacking tanks in it but the T-34s I will leave to my own tankers. They are just to tough. The single MG is fine for spritzing troops.

The main trick to it is keeping the proper speed on your GV attack run. I like to shoot point blank and if your to slow your going to lose control and auger. To fast and your not going to recover. Shooting GVs in a fighter like that, point blank, is harder then with an IL-2. Your shooting less round with less hitting power and its takes discipline to break off for another run at it. Ive ended up bug splat thru greed.

The -9T is an awsome perk collector. All in all it reminds me of handymans tool you use all over the house. This is a great tool & airplane. Your thoughts?

there's quite a few aircraft in here that're under rated. i think you're one of the rare ones that actually tries something different.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2009, 01:05:12 AM »
Under-rated?  Not sure but I definitely don't consider it to be one of the better fighters in the game.


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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2009, 03:51:14 AM »
Its a 30 eny airplane. At 3k, with full gas, I got one up to 340 mph. One shot from the cannon will down any fighter. Its murder on bombers.

I wouldnt call it "mediocre". When used to its strengths its very useful. I consider it a defense only fighter. Once you run out of cannon rounds your pretty much helpless. Im not aware of any other fighter that can cleanly take a tank out with guns alone.

340mph at 3k is not fast, compared to LW planeset.

"One shot from the cannon" is easier said than done, with poor ballistics and a front heavy loadout. And with only 40 opportunities to get that One Shot, I'd honestly rather take my chances with a lesser calibre on even the 9U or any other plane for that matter.

If you are not aware of another fighter for tank busting, consider the Hurri2D. It has two 40mm compared to the Yak-9T's one 37mm. Both planes have HE rounds.

Yak-9T is the definition of mediocre. Any other opinion, and you need either a refresher on the AH planeset or on contemporary lexicon.

I wouldnt call it "mediocre". When used to its strengths its very useful.

Yes, you can use any plane to its strengths. That does not make it better than mediocre.



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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 03:59:22 AM »
340mph at 3k is not fast, compared to LW planeset.

"One shot from the cannon" is easier said than done, with poor ballistics and a front heavy loadout. And with only 40 opportunities to get that One Shot, I'd honestly rather take my chances with a lesser calibre on even the 9U or any other plane for that matter.

If you are not aware of another fighter for tank busting, consider the Hurri2D. It has two 40mm compared to the Yak-9T's one 37mm. Both planes have HE rounds.

Yak-9T is the definition of mediocre. Any other opinion, and you need either a refresher on the AH planeset or on contemporary lexicon.

Yes, you can use any plane to its strengths. That does not make it better than mediocre.


Hurricane D has AP rounds, not HE (as the Yak indeed does)
And you are wrong on the "poor ballistics" of the Yak's 37mm gun: It's actually having the best ballistics of all guns in the AH planeset.

But other than that, the Yak-T is indeed a mediocre plane. Not particularly fast, not particularly maneuverable, not a very good turner, average acceleration and climb rate. Big gun with good ballistics but puny ammo loadout.

If the Yak-T ain't mediocre, please name one that is ;)
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 05:41:34 AM »
I know a lot about how to get killed by a Yak.  :furious
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 06:42:01 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I love the yaks, both of them.

But you'd never catch me rolling a 9t for base defense.
Bomber intercept if I have time to get to alt yes.

Yes the gun is very good if you teach yourself to snipe with it.
Single aimed shots can be very effective.

But to knowingly put myself at an E disadvantage starting the fight in the 9t, nope.

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 07:47:16 AM »
Your thoughts?

I have a lot of fun in the 9T.  Part of the reason for the "mediocre" comments, I suspect, is that it's being compared to late war planes.  If you compare it to mid-war planes it does fine.  I'd just as soon have the 9T as a P-47D11 or D25, a Hellcat, a P-40E, a Tony or a 205.

Unlike these planes (excepting the Tony), the 9T takes some practice.  It turns much better to the right, for example, while all the others turn better to the left.  You have to be really cautious about dropping the flaps, and conserving energy requires more attention than some of the others.

The tater is a kick, though.  It's nice not having to worry about chipping bits and pieces off the other guy's plane (as you do, for instance, in the 202).

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 07:51:25 AM »
I had the pleasure of fighting Gixer in his 9T ( me in my 38J ) a couple of days ago. While i was impressed that i actually lasted (about) 10mins, the outcome was enevitable, i died a horrible flaming cartoon death.

In the hands of the right person. the 9T is a beast. Gixer is the right person let me tell you!!

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