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Offline Lusche

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 08:18:18 AM »
In the hands of the right person. the 9T is a beast.

May the flame be on me, but I don't agree. Of course a good pilot can have good success even in "sub-par" planes (and yes, I speak about LW arnea only), but you can't make a beast out of a mule, metaphorically speaking.
When judging and comparing planes, you have to seperate player & plane.
The performance of the Yak is mediocre (yes, still LW ;)), which doesn't mean you can't give lesser capable pilots in "better" planes a kicking. :)
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 09:18:20 AM »
I wouldn't say the 9T is a dog, but it's at best a niche plane. I know there are a handfull of pilots who fly it well and have good success with it, but for the average AH pilot it's only going to get them "killed" in short order. A few years ago I flew the 9T quite a bit for a few months straight, and it took a few months to really get the hang of the plane and learn how the 37mm shoots. As was stated earlier, it's a sniper, not a spray and pray, but once you figure it out and if your patient enough you can cause some serious damage at some pretty incredible ranges. First time I was accused of "cheating" I was in a 9T. Had someone in an ME-262 try to bounce me after I had shot down a flight of JU-88's. Got a check 6 from a squadie, saw the 262 coming in and was able to dodge the attack. As he passed by me I started to get the nose on him and at 1K I loosed my last 3 rounds out in front of him as he turned. He was at 1.5K when I saw the hit sprite and the right wing come off the plane. Dove for the deck and ran for home. Landed 4 kills, 3 JU-88's and a 262. Good times.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 09:40:53 AM »
May the flame be on me, but I don't agree. Of course a good pilot can have good success even in "sub-par" planes (and yes, I speak about LW arnea only), but you can't make a beast out of a mule, metaphorically speaking.
When judging and comparing planes, you have to seperate player & plane.
The performance of the Yak is mediocre (yes, still LW ;)), which doesn't mean you can't give lesser capable pilots in "better" planes a kicking. :)

No flame at all, maybe i could have worded that better. Technically speaking the YaK9T is not as good as many of the planes. I think i should have emphasised the pilot more.  :salute
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 11:43:43 AM »
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But you'd never catch me rolling a 9t for base defense.

Reasons for?

1, Its 30 eny. Why reward the vulch crowd with upping 5 eny planes for a bunch of 5 on 1 skilless dweebs, with their 6 cannoned run-90s, to swoop down at 450 mph and pick you off the runway.

2, It has a very, very big gun. The kind of gun that makes things go "BOOM"! when you hit them once.

3, It a good GV killer. Most of all the armored plated M3s and 251s we have in the game. Oh and I forgot to mention those pesky M8s.

4, Views. It has Yak views. And it has average performance that often is just good enough.

5, Its a great over-shoot plane. Loses E most effeciently and is a small, tough target.

6, In defenses against Hordes there isnt going to be any time for prolonged dogfighting because your going to get picked, probably on the first climb. This is the kind of defense Im talking about. Not the "one or two dots at the edge of dar coming in". Im talking the "horde on top of you" kind of defense. The kind many dont bother playing cause its murder on their scores.

Its not a panacea by no means, and I never said it was. But its a good tool when used at the right time. And if somebody in a , more then a few planes, try to stall fight it they might end up with a problem.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 12:13:55 PM »
I am not convinced with the 37mm efficiency on bombers, how many times do you see a lancaster walk with 5+ 37mm hits ? Too much IMO. Also please send a film of a panzer dieing from Yak9t hits.

Also I have yet to find an attribute on the Yak9t that makes it survivable against other fighters, mid war 109's eat it alive for exemple, on all specs except HO   :airplane:
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 12:15:14 PM »


Its not a panacea by no means, and I never said it was. But its a good tool when used at the right time. And if somebody in a , more then a few planes, try to stall fight it they might end up with a problem.

No offense but it's obvious you really don't have that much experience in the 9T, if you try and stall fight in a 9T, it's you that is going to have some serious problems.  As Lusche said, it's a mediocre plane at best.  I'll be more than willing to show you first hand if you like.


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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 01:10:46 PM »
I am not convinced with the 37mm efficiency on bombers, how many times do you see a lancaster walk with 5+ 37mm hits ? Too much IMO. Also please send a film of a panzer dieing from Yak9t hits.

Also I have yet to find an attribute on the Yak9t that makes it survivable against other fighters, mid war 109's eat it alive for exemple, on all specs except HO   :airplane:

So far this tour Ive killed 8 Panzers with the single NS-37 of the Yak-9T. Since the single MG wont even dent them, and there are no ords available for the Yak, its pretty easy to assume the 9T can kill them. And fairly easily. So will the Hurri-D.

Next time I kill one I'll film it. I thought the efficiency of the NS-37 was so well accepted against armor that I never bothered filming it.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2009, 01:20:00 PM »
I am not convinced with the 37mm efficiency on bombers, how many times do you see a lancaster walk with 5+ 37mm hits ? Too much IMO. Also please send a film of a panzer dieing from Yak9t hits.

Also I have yet to find an attribute on the Yak9t that makes it survivable against other fighters, mid war 109's eat it alive for exemple, on all specs except HO   :airplane:

should have somewhere a film triple lanc kill at 1.2 with 5 shells :)

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2009, 02:02:30 PM »
I like the -9T.

In an on the deck furball Its a great plane to use.

Its major strength is the tater. I enjoy very much that I can cut almost any plane in half with 1 shell.

I prefer the -39D for pure fun with the tater. Once the spud gun is gone with the yak Its almost impossible to fight with it.

It can be done but I dont have the patience to shoot down a plane with 1 fifty cal.

Its a very average plane but the spud gun makes it one of the most fun planes to use.

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2009, 02:26:21 PM »
Getting kill credit for tanks is a different thing from actually killing them, FYI.

M3s are not armored, and SdKfs are very lightly armored, and can be strafed down with MGs as easily as 20mms as easily as 37mms.

You hype its anti-tank capabilities beyond the facts.

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2009, 03:32:38 PM »
I saw the little Panzer heads blow off. FYI. The 9T is fully able to take out Panzers and Shermans. I mean kill them, not just get the credit.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2009, 03:38:47 PM »
I saw the little Panzer heads blow off. FYI. The 9T is fully able to take out Panzers and Shermans. I mean kill them, not just get the credit.
I'd like to see film on a sherman kill if possible.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2009, 03:46:56 PM »
Also please send a film of a panzer dieing from Yak9t hits.


This debate has been had before in another thread from what I recall several films were posted of 9T's killing Panzer's. I don't have film but I have done this several times my self. Plus been on the receiving end of a 9T while in a Panzer & died.
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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2009, 05:10:34 PM »
Getting kill credit for tanks is a different thing from actually killing them, FYI.

M3s are not armored, and SdKfs are very lightly armored, and can be strafed down with MGs as easily as 20mms as easily as 37mms.

You hype its anti-tank capabilities beyond the facts.

I've 1-shot killed a Whirble... once. Only round I had left.  I bet I was more surprised than he was.  

My shooting ability takes all 30 rounds to kill a panzer. Like all tank-busting, hit the right spot once and they'll go boom.


And, the OP asks "Is the Yak9-T underrated?"  Mediocre or not....

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Re: Yak-9T...under-rated?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2009, 07:28:46 PM »
being as how 'underrated' is subjective to each persons own personal prejudices, there is no 'right' answer.

But there seems to be something of a consensus here...