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Offline Chalenge

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #555 on: December 16, 2009, 12:29:58 AM »
Today’s CO2 concentration of around 385 ppm is very low compared to most of the earth’s history – we actually live in a carbon-deficient atmosphere. Dispute that!
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #556 on: December 16, 2009, 02:35:36 AM »
This is the thread that never ends.


I guess the Goracle is wrong on that count, the debate is not over. 

Nor should scientific debate ever be over or squelched like some are doing with climate change now.

Imagine if we had squelched scientific debate like this in Darwin's day, we'd still be teaching La Marcke's theory of evolution in biology.
 

It amazes me that no one in the media will call out Al Gore on the fact that he flat out REFUSES to debate anyone on the subject.  He won't even take questions from skeptics at a press conference, all he does is sit back and mock them, calling skeptics, "flat-earthers" and "moon landing hoaxers" and pushing his one world government agenda.

Meanwhile, he won't even give up cheesburgers to "save the planet"

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #557 on: December 16, 2009, 02:54:49 AM »
The first sentence is also not completely accurate. The burning (carbonization) of plant material also effects the ratios.


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and this highlights another area ignored by the AGW alarmists. Man has contributed considerably to preventing naturally occuring (CO2 contributing) forrest fires. How does this factor into their equations?

Its also worth noting this is also the biggest contributor to the huge uncontrollable fires we see around the world... not global warming. Overgrown undergrowth and forests with a too high tree density are the problem.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #558 on: December 16, 2009, 03:04:37 AM »
Everyone does realize that the technology exists to remove CO2 from the atmosphere?

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/project-earth/explores/carbon.html

Also 'clean' factories are also possible without having to resort to 'tax and trade' scams.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #559 on: December 16, 2009, 03:36:42 AM »
No matter what, I think we're going to debate and debate untill we run out of carbon. Problem cured  :devil
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #560 on: December 16, 2009, 03:54:18 AM »
We'll never run out of carbon, it's everywhere. :)

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #561 on: December 16, 2009, 05:48:13 AM »
We'll never run out of carbon, it's everywhere. :)

Besides helium, isn't it cool that we're made of the 4 most abundant elements in the universe? C, H, O, and N.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #562 on: December 16, 2009, 06:08:03 AM »
Danish minister Connie Hedegaard has resigned as president of the UN climate change summit in Copenhagen, describing the move as "procedural".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8415899.stm

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #563 on: December 16, 2009, 07:37:29 AM »
Everyone does realize that the technology exists to remove CO2 from the atmosphere?


The amount of money I paid for my Dyson it could do the same thing.....  :lol


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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #564 on: December 16, 2009, 07:44:44 AM »
If it's everywhere, why do we have to drill for it ?
Oh, I forgot to say "carbon in a burnable form" :D
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #565 on: December 16, 2009, 09:41:01 AM »
Everyone does realize that the technology exists to remove CO2 from the atmosphere?

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/project-earth/explores/carbon.html

Also 'clean' factories are also possible without having to resort to 'tax and trade' scams.
co2 is not a pollutant.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #566 on: December 16, 2009, 10:17:14 AM »
Years ago where rolling fields were, they are all covered in trees now.


Mankinds fencelines have cause trees to grow where before there were none. (birds land on the fence and drop seeds)

Ice is retreating in some areas and advancing in others. (has always done this..... way before man)

Those all concerned with global warming can move up north.... or way down south.


Way before the end of earth our children's children will be burdened by the expenditures of all the money the fear mongers are wanting to spend to fight mother nature.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #567 on: December 16, 2009, 10:28:48 AM »
co2 is not a pollutant.

Anything is a pollutant, given enough concentration.   

O2 caused the death of almost every life form on the planet when it started to concentrate in early history.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #568 on: December 16, 2009, 10:33:30 AM »
Anything is a pollutant, given enough concentration.   

O2 caused the death of almost every life form on the planet when it started to concentrate in early history.

Humans had not even been here yet. Those pesky donosaurs and their smokey vehicles and plants.
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