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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #675 on: December 24, 2009, 04:47:27 AM »
"Anyone else going to incredibly slap Penguin besides me?"

It's no good slapping Penguin, FYB, we in Duxford Wing do that all the time and he just comes up for more, bless 'im.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #676 on: December 24, 2009, 07:41:22 AM »
Penguin I believe oil is created in an enzymatic process but... by your theory please explain how dinosaur guts got so far under the earths crust please?

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and to further your question.....why did they all apparently go to certain places to die?

and why when i dug up my dead cat, is there nothign but bones?
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #677 on: December 24, 2009, 08:38:24 AM »
Penguin I believe oil is created in an enzymatic process but... by your theory please explain how dinosaur guts got so far under the earths crust please?

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You know how the rocks at the bottom of stream beds are so smooth?  That's because of erosion.  Water works mouch more quickly than air, but the smooth tops of the Appalchian Mountain Range prove my point.  The dust from all of those millions of years of erosion caused the ground level to rise.

That's the same reason why we have to dig up fossils and other such things.  No, they weren't dinosaur guts, they were the remains of plankton, swamps and marshes (they last much, much, much longer).  That's how we get the big pockets of subterranean oil today.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #678 on: December 24, 2009, 08:41:10 AM »
You know how the rocks at the bottom of stream beds are so smooth?  That's because of erosion.  Water works mouch more quickly than air, but the smooth tops of the Appalchian Mountain Range prove my point.  The dust from all of those millions of years of erosion caused the ground level to rise.

That's the same reason why we have to dig up fossils and other such things.  No, they weren't dinosaur guts, they were the remains of plankton, swamps and marshes (they last much, much, much longer).  That's how we get the big pockets of subterranean oil today.

Glad to tell someone about geology  :cheers:

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doesn't explain how "dry" wells have new oil in em.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #679 on: December 24, 2009, 08:45:21 AM »
Residual oil seeps around, and for quite a while before you have removed every molecule from the well.  It's like a glass with molasses in it, you can't suck out every drop with a straw, and occaisonaly it will pool into a big enough drop for you to imbibe.

(Yes, I know that molasses is thicker, just needed to simulate some of the effects)

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #680 on: December 24, 2009, 08:50:20 AM »
Residual oil seeps around, and for quite a while before you have removed every molecule from the well.  It's like a glass with molasses in it, you can't suck out every drop with a straw, and occaisonaly it will pool into a big enough drop for you to imbibe.

(Yes, I know that molasses is thicker, just needed to simulate some of the effects)

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IF YOU read the links, you'd have seen that they checked for that possibility. the oil they found in these wells is not just running down. it is also significant;y newer than the oil previously found in them.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #681 on: December 24, 2009, 08:54:27 AM »
You can't prove anything with a theory.

Try again.



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Well then, I guess I can jump off of the world, since the Theory of Gravity doesn't work

And I suppose that my computer shouldn't work at all, since the Theory of Electricity is false

And the speed of light is variable, since Einstein's Theory of Relativity is wrong

I think that you have made a very large, sweeping statement about just about the entire universe, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.  Rethink your post.

it is also significant;y newer than the oil previously found in them.

Right, ok, I see your point, but how much oil, and how much newer?  If we are seeing gallons seeping through semiannually, that still doesn't prove your point.

Also, you never said whether or not the oil was the same as the previous stock taken out from the ground.  Your theory may be true, but they are not mutually exclusive.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #682 on: December 24, 2009, 09:00:44 AM »
Well then, I guess I can jump off of the world, since the Theory of Gravity doesn't work

And I suppose that my computer shouldn't work at all, since the Theory of Electricity is false

And the speed of light is variable, since Einstein's Theory of Relativity is wrong

I think that you have made a very large, sweeping statement about just about the entire universe, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.  Rethink your post.

Right, ok, I see your point, but how much oil, and how much newer?  If we are seeing gallons seeping through semiannually, that still doesn't prove your point.

Also, you never said whether or not the oil was the same as the previous stock taken out from the ground.  Your theory may be true, but they are not mutually exclusive.

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it's not my theory. go up, and read the links i posted.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #683 on: December 24, 2009, 09:02:56 AM »
That was to widewing.  Didn't it seem clear in the quote, I was going after what he said!  :O

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #684 on: December 24, 2009, 09:51:02 AM »
Well then, I guess I can jump off of the world, since the Theory of Gravity doesn't work

And I suppose that my computer shouldn't work at all, since the Theory of Electricity is false

And the speed of light is variable, since Einstein's Theory of Relativity is wrong

I think that you have made a very large, sweeping statement about just about the entire universe, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.  Rethink your post.

-Penguin


Maybe you're just being obtuse.... The fact remains that you cannot "prove" anything using theory as evidence. If you submitted a paper to me using theory as "proof", I'd mark it as an F. Theory means that a phenomena, function, relationship, mechanism or operation is not completely understood. How does one prove a case with something not completely understood? You can't.

One definition of "theory" is a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

Thus, I repeat; try again.


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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #685 on: December 24, 2009, 10:12:46 AM »
Ummmm to solve global warming we can either A: Switch to de-salination COMPLETELY. Or B: give the fijians life jackets.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #686 on: December 24, 2009, 01:56:08 PM »
Maybe you're just being obtuse.... The fact remains that you cannot "prove" anything using theory as evidence. If you submitted a paper to me using theory as "proof", I'd mark it as an F. Theory means that a phenomena, function, relationship, mechanism or operation is not completely understood. How does one prove a case with something not completely understood? You can't.

One definition of "theory" is a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

Thus, I repeat; try again.


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Widewing



Hmm, all you have done is try to refute me,  do you even have a point of your own? 

Here, I can do it right now:

I am on the planet Earth
 
I have a flashlight in my hand.  I am applying enough force to it so that it remains stationary.  According to the theory of gravity, if this force should cease to be applied the flashlight will drop.

Ok, here I go;

Will the flashlight either:

a.) drop to the ground and bounce
b.) float in midair
c.) turn into a flying unicorn

The flashlight dropped and bounced.  This disproves your claim that nothing can be proven using a theory as evidence.
 
Like I said, rethink your post.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #687 on: December 24, 2009, 02:05:38 PM »
"Anyone else going to incredibly slap Penguin besides me?"

It's no good slapping Penguin, FYB, we in Duxford Wing do that all the time and he just comes up for more, bless 'im.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #688 on: December 24, 2009, 02:06:37 PM »
Hmm, all you have done is try to refute me,  do you even have a point of your own? 

Here, I can do it right now:

I am on the planet Earth
 
I have a flashlight in my hand.  I am applying enough force to it so that it remains stationary.  According to the theory of gravity, if this force should cease to be applied the flashlight will drop.

Ok, here I go;

Will the flashlight either:

a.) drop to the ground and bounce
b.) float in midair
c.) turn into a flying unicorn

The flashlight dropped and bounced.  This disproves your claim that nothing can be proven using a theory as evidence.
 
Like I said, rethink your post.

-Penguin

do you realize you're using "fossil" fuels to type your responses....and that they were used for virtually everything you own?
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #689 on: December 24, 2009, 02:08:26 PM »
Yes, and it irks me.  I don't understand where you are going with that.  Of course I can't live in the woods!  I'm not even grown up!

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