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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1425 on: February 14, 2010, 09:29:48 PM »
Look at the picture again..... It is NOT all over the place. In fact, the anomality is in the positive direction, not the negative one....

"Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

Where is Al Gore hiding these days?



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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1426 on: February 14, 2010, 09:44:21 PM »
Too tired to read, too tired to fight.  Leaving this for tommorow.  I hope you're not going to hit me when I can't hit back.  Good night CAP!

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1427 on: February 14, 2010, 09:45:06 PM »
"Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

Where is Al Gore hiding these days?



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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1428 on: February 14, 2010, 09:46:04 PM »
I thought it was in his private jet?

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1429 on: February 14, 2010, 09:53:10 PM »
"Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

Where is Al Gore hiding these days?



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He'll pop up around July.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1430 on: February 14, 2010, 10:29:11 PM »
I thought it was in his private jet?

Strip

you might be right....it's faster
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1431 on: February 15, 2010, 02:38:28 AM »
"Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

Where is Al Gore hiding these days?



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That's odd when thinking of the changes still happening in the environment.....Well, at least I live under a good spell of local warming :D
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1432 on: February 15, 2010, 08:46:06 AM »
Seems like what is being discussed is very similar to the mini-ice age that spawned the Middle Ages and the fall of the Roman Empire and the gentle and beneficial warming trend that made the prosperity of the Renaissance possible.  What we have here is people like Angus who, although freely admit to the personal benefits of a warming trend, cannot help but look a gift horse in the mouth.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1433 on: February 15, 2010, 10:02:28 AM »
Alrighty then... the last part was strange. 

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1434 on: February 15, 2010, 10:24:32 AM »
It's not just me....basically a good chunk of N-Europe with a good chunk of the N-Atlantic included. An area totalling vastly more than the USA.
Recently there was a conference of the odds and ends of GW, i.e. what we can do to counter the bad sides as well as what we can do to benefit from the better sides.
This is not a position where we are waiting for our part of the world to warm, - it's already there.
So, Farmwise, like in my case, we have an actual opening of growing new crops, which were to heat demanding for our climate before. Alike, we get new bugs and pests and Fungi that have never or very rarely been here before.
Potatoe fungus: 1955, 1994, 1996 and now a resident.
Tics: Starting. Unknown before.
Bumble bees: Saw my first one in July 1985. Now you can spot them all the way to the 10th of April.
Better parts: Growing barley with very high efficiency and increasing crops, instead of a 20% chance of catastrophy.
Growing wheat, and now even mature rapeseed. Growing Danish stock of various brands, such as clovers, as well as English stocks of various lawn grasses, - could have forgotten all about this some 30 years ago.
And ocean life...now you're talking. Now there is a debate between the more northerly countries, since the more resident stock of fish is shifting northwards. The cod is moving north, and so is the Herring, but we are getting big batches of Macril instead from the more warm parts of the Atlantic.
The list is endless, and so, the businesses move on to practical application instead of trying to haggle about it on paper.
For me, trying to tell me that there is nothing happening in that block of the world, is like a colour blind Jehova's witness trying to convince me that God does not have red and green on the list. I don't need Al Gore, or all those grabby bureucrats trying to imply some taxation for GW, nor opportunitists of the political sort, nor do I put a blind eye on the oil companies rubbing their palms as new oil fields open up where the ice is retreating.
For me, it's a fact that the northern part of the northern hemisphere is showing reasonable warming. I just have to live with it, and leave it to more computing power to calculate how it works on a global scale.
Odd though, GW was supposed to be detected first nearer to the poles once starting, and since weather systems can get messed up quite a bit, some areas will have some cooling. And this, ladies and gentlemen, I learned in my bio studies in the 1980´s.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1435 on: February 15, 2010, 10:32:26 AM »
Sounds good! 

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1436 on: February 15, 2010, 06:45:11 PM »
See Rule #4

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1437 on: February 15, 2010, 07:49:43 PM »
Angus, local climates change. They can vary at the limits of the norm. Whether it's warming or cooling, man is powerless to change that. Rather than waste trillions attempting to prevent something out of our control, the resources need to be spent adapting to the changes. Climate is never truly static.

Adapt or die... A basic rule of nature.


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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1438 on: February 16, 2010, 01:18:54 AM »
CAP,

Untill Penguin's parents aren't paying his bills and taking responsibility for his mistakes. His 3 digiit IQ and glib debating style does not mean he has a dog in this fight with us no matter how enchanting or entertaining he is. Where you and I have worries and consiquences every day that can bankrupt and make us destitute inside of a few months. Penguin can crawl back into his bed and wake up in the morining knowing mommy and daddy have him covered. He has no experience to have a real opinion other than what he has memorised and emotionaly identifies with. He will not suffer the same consiquences we will if he identifies with an erronious set of ideological ideals. He is also baiting you to continue paying attention to him becuase his flavor of the month ideologicly is 180 degrees from your own.

CAP, why are you letting a child run you in circles? Do you fight with children in person as an adult?
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1439 on: February 16, 2010, 07:56:44 AM »
Angus, local climates change.

Using the word "local" is bit of a slanting word, isn't it?  The phenomenon of arctic warming covers a very wide area.
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