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Offline Chalenge

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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2009, 07:37:57 PM »
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2009, 08:07:32 PM »
Quote from: thorsim on November 30, 2009, 06:53:12 PM
the noun is round
So I'll ask the obvious and dim-witted question . . .

How much more velocity can be acheived firing a 9mm pistol round down a rifle-lengthed barrel vs. firing it from a run-of-the-mill 9mm handgun?
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2009, 09:02:31 PM »
Where is Tony Williams when you need 'em....
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2009, 09:21:24 PM »
9 mm pistol:





9 mm pistol round:



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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2009, 09:25:24 PM »
Quote from: E25280 on November 30, 2009, 08:07:32 PM
So I'll ask the obvious and dim-witted question . . .

How much more velocity can be acheived firing a 9mm pistol round down a rifle-lengthed barrel vs. firing it from a run-of-the-mill 9mm handgun?

The H&K MP-5 has sights for up to 100 meters (~110 yards) and a practical maximum range of 150 meters (~165 yards).
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2009, 10:13:45 PM »
I think the max range on a 9mm round is 1500 meters.  Effective in a pistol is like 50 meters I believe.  I think the velocity is around 1200 fps.
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2009, 10:25:23 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on November 30, 2009, 09:25:24 PM
The H&K MP-5 has sights for up to 100 meters (~110 yards) and a practical maximum range of 150 meters (~165 yards).

This is true.  I have successfully employed an MP-5 against personnel at 100-120 meters.  Very accurate, very sweet weapon.  Against a/c, the 9mm would probably need to be used in a mini-gun type weapon with a RoF high enough to create a buzzsaw effect.  You'd really have to get right up on their butt too.
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2009, 10:40:17 PM »
No. The important noun is PISTOL...

9mm rounds from rifles are light years ahead of 9mm PISTOLS (as in the subject line) and the talk was of a person shooting a 9mm pistol round at planes....


which implies USING a pistol!


(*how's that for obvious, Strip? :) *)
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2009, 11:54:18 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on November 30, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
(*how's that for obvious, Strip? :) *)

I dont know if its obvious enough, you seem to have attracted a special breed in this thread.

Would have gone with large font and bright colors myself....

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« Last Edit: November 30, 2009, 11:55:51 PM by Strip »
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2009, 12:09:15 AM »
You forget, I'm lazy.  ;)
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2009, 12:27:46 AM »
the 9MM(9x19) is a "pistol" round, you see there was this dude named Luger ...

it is also used in other guns that are not pistols ...

same round different guns, nobody calls it a 9mm SMG round when it comes out of a MP5 or an Uzi ...

fyi there are also other "9mm" rounds that range from 9x17ish to 9x30ish ...

mostly also called "pistol" rounds whatever they are fired out of ...

of course the OP could just clear this all up ...


Quote from: Krusty on November 30, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
No. The important noun is PISTOL...

9mm rounds from rifles are light years ahead of 9mm PISTOLS (as in the subject line) and the talk was of a person shooting a 9mm pistol round at planes....


which implies USING a pistol!


(*how's that for obvious, Strip? :) *)


 

« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 12:30:47 AM by thorsim »
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2009, 12:32:00 AM »
So, when somebody says "9mm pistol round" you automatically jump to "a 20-foot barrel with a single action firing a 9mm bullet"?

Because... You say "9mm pistol round" to 99% of the world, they're going to think you ARE talking about pistols firing them. And all the ballistics inherrent with them.

And yes the question was about ballistics too... If it was 9mm rifle rounds fired from super long barrels with perfect trajectory.... well that's just not the case.


As opposed to the original post explicitly saying "MP5s" or "MP40s". Which he didn't.
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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2009, 12:37:00 AM »
Its often referred to as a 9mm Parabellum....

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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2009, 12:38:17 AM »
no i just understood him to mean the 9x19mm 9mm "luger" round instead of say the 9mm winchester magnum round ...

i made no assumptions about what was firing it and i assumed it would be some sort of MG "appropriate" to be mounted on an aircraft to shoot at other aircraft.

i understood the discussion to be about the rounds capabilities not the gun firing it ...

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Re: Would a 9mm pistol round bounce?
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2009, 12:38:44 AM »
I'm familiar with the varried use of 9mm ammunition. My point stands. He said "pistol" and asked if the rounds would bounce off, implying pistol-based ballistics.


Pistols. Unless otherwise stated, the most obvious conclusion is pistols.
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