Nothing to see here, move along

[Oogly50]

**** Drug related discussions have no place on our board. ****

[vorticon]

cheaper if you don't have to pay taxes on it.

[cattb]

24 pack of bud for 8.99, buy 2 and get a free bag of bud to go with..

[trigger2]

Actually Oogly, there a few discrepencies in your post.

First off, it isn't a "safe drug" and I'll point out why later.

Overdose is possible, just highly unlikely, just like water.
Alcohol and Tobacco are far better than marijuana as marijuana (although the filtering doesn't do much...) is still unfiltered and has MUCH more tar and carcinogens than tobacco. Yes, you can get a physiological addiction to marijuana, it's highly likely as it activates the "reward pathway" in your brain with such high levels of the chemical dopamine, up to 15 times more than sex.

All drugs of abuse directly or indirectly target the brain's reward system by flooding the circuit with dopamine.

The addict portion isn't true, it IS possible to get a physiological addiction.

Millions of people use marijuana habitually and many are quite addicted to the drug. Addiction is a disease and like any disease, tears away at the mind and body of the sufferer.

Marijuana is also one of the leading causes of psychosis. Forms of psychosis include schizophrenia.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20070726/pot-now-psychotic-later

"We've long suspected that cannabis is linked to psychoses, but we have never before had scans to show how the mechanism works," said Dr. Philip McGuire, a professor of psychiatry at King's College, London.

In analyzing MRI scans of the study's subjects, McGuire and his colleagues found that THC interfered with activity in the inferior frontal cortex, a region of the brain associated with paranoia.

"THC is switching off that regulator," McGuire said, effectively unleashing the paranoia usually kept under control by the frontal cortex.

Saying that we should legalize it so we can tax it, how's that any different than asking to legalize child porn, if it's taxed of course. Or asking to legalize meth.

For these reasons and many more, I think it should remain illegal. This is what I get for living with a mental health nurse and a police officer.

[phatzo]

First let me state that I'm in favor of legalization, if only to remove the criminal element from Marijuana trade. This would leave the hippy out at Nimbin growing it and selling it of to those that would either use or resell. But, and I mean a big wide spreading but, like the lady who sits in front of me in church on a Sunday, to say it is a harmless drug is false economy. I have in the past used marijuana excessively and have personally felt the effects of its phsycological addiction, you dont ever want to get to far from your stash. I actually avoided a free trip to NZ because of this. I was screwing up at work due to a lack of motivation to make sure everything was spot on, in fact it ruled my life for nearly 10 years. I also have a son who is 21 years old and about as usefull as a turd at a sewage treatment plant, because he is completely stoned all the time. So far his life has been crap and I can't do squat about it coz he's a "responsible adult" and makes his own choices. I still partake regularly but am in no means addicted, I can take it or leave it, but I had to learn that.
plus one for legalization
minus one for harmless

[Chalenge]

Did the mafia really kill people trading alcohol? I mean of course they killed competition and feds but citizens? I think they killed less bystanders in total than gangs do today everyday nation wide.

[Bodhi]

Marijuana is a gateway drug.  If you don't believe me, ask my parents who turned a blind eye to their youngest son's (my brother's) pot habit.  He is dead from a heroin overdose.

[BiPoLaR]

Did the mafia really kill people trading alcohol? I mean of course they killed competition and feds but citizens? I think they killed less bystanders in total than gangs do today everyday nation wide.

wrong
If you were in their way at all, you died

[1pLUs44]

Marijuana is a gateway drug.  If you don't believe me, ask my parents who turned a blind eye to their youngest son's (my brother's) pot habit.  He is dead from a heroin overdose.

Anything that gets you loopy when you take excessive amounts of it is. Alcohol is a perfect example if you can't control how much you drink.

[ink]

Actually Oogly, there a few discrepencies in your post.

First off, it isn't a "safe drug" and I'll point out why later.

Overdose is possible, just highly unlikely, just like water.
Alcohol and Tobacco are far better than marijuana as marijuana (although the filtering doesn't do much...) is still unfiltered and has MUCH more tar and carcinogens than tobacco. Yes, you can get a physiological addiction to marijuana, it's highly likely as it activates the "reward pathway" in your brain with such high levels of the chemical dopamine, up to 15 times more than sex.The addict portion isn't true, it IS possible to get a physiological addiction.Marijuana is also one of the leading causes of psychosis. Forms of psychosis include schizophrenia.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20070726/pot-now-psychotic-later
Saying that we should legalize it so we can tax it, how's that any different than asking to legalize child porn, if it's taxed of course. Or asking to legalize meth.

For these reasons and many more, I think it should remain illegal. This is what I get for living with a mental health nurse and a police officer.

you have been so bamboozled it aint funny    over dose on pot NO you can NOT, period, the only way to overdose on pot is if you consumed 1,500 lbs in 15 minutes. NOT possible, oh man where else do I reply...psychosis     sorry but I know WAY too many people that have been using pot since before I was born.  and they are as normal as well most people, except they are a little smarter then those that listen to lie's and believe them.
   you have been lied to and you believe it   You should go and watch the old "government" commercials about it, you will hate it even more and "know" its the devil's drug

to say it's no different then Legalizing child porn is...is...is well I am actually at a lose for words here, I cant believe how gullible you are.
  It is NOT a "drug" it is a plant made by God for us,  made illegal because "big corporations" did not like the competition. so they "paid" to have it Illegalized.   But of course YOU "know" that's not the truth right.

Marijuana is a gateway drug.  If you don't believe me, ask my parents who turned a blind eye to their youngest son's (my brother's) pot habit.  He is dead from a heroin overdose.

I am sorry for your lose. my brother died also so I know what it feels like,    but to blame a completely different "substance" on his death is wrong,  as you said "heroin" killed him, not pot, Pot did NOT make him take heroin.Pot is NOT a "gateway" as you have been led to believe,  That's like saying Bee Bee guns are a gate way to gun violence. saying its a "gateway" is just more smoke and mirrors!


as a matter of fact last time I checked we are supposed to live in a free "country"  it is not very free when they can dictate what you can put into your own system.

 ohh POT's the devil's drug it's bad, But hey you can stop by our "state Liquor store" conveniently located on the Highway 

what is wrong with people.


I gotta stop now before I get skuzzied.


wake the ---- up
 


    

[Charge]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/65988.php

-C+

[-tronski-]

 It is NOT a "drug" it is a plant made by God for us

Poppy farmers in afghanistan should totally use this line!

I'm with Phatzo, +1 legalise but its totally not a harmless drug...I had a friend who was just a casual user and ended up in a hospital pysch unit with drug induced pychosis pretty fluffied up for life

 Tronsky

[TinmanX]

It will never be legalised.

If you think the drug companies are going to allow it to be legalized when it can be grown at home for free, preventing them making BILLIONS on the thousands of ailments it treats for which they have developed drug that make them profit - your wrong.

Drug companies are still the US's biggest, richest industry and the trickle down from that is lobbyists to lawmakers. It will never happen.

The only way pot is a gateway drug if the guy you buy it from also sells harder stuff and you're an idiot.

Medically proven to be non-addictive.

[Heater]

Well....

Living in The Netherlands....The only real problem I see is all of the people coming across the border to buy it, then getting busted when the cross the border to go home.... Some people are not too smart!!!

[SirLoin]

I had never even tried it until 4 years ago(when i turned 40..)It is a wonderfull substance,haven't and won't consider it a gateway drug to anything except maybe ciggarettes(which i also started smoking 4 years ago).You don't need to smoke it either.The guy that grows it for us doesn't even smoke it(has asthma,makes cookies)..The only side effect is short-term memory for me.

It even helps people with Glycoma see..Where as booze,which has never helped anyone see straight..is perfectly legal.I much prefer the company of a pothead to that of a boozer anyday.

And unlike beer,pot doesn't make a "2" sitting on a bar stool look like a "10"...No hangover regrets .