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Offline saantana

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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2009, 12:43:10 PM »
LOL, can't handle the guilt. I have three kills in an XVI this tour. Got a couple of other Spits. Then I followed this poor guy who dove on me with a jug and ton of speed and zoom climbed up and shot him. I mean, there I was, balls to the walls throttle, hanging on the prop, little more torque problems than if I had been in a P-38 or jet. I should have been roped and very dead. I actually apologized to the Jug pilot.

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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2009, 12:49:36 PM »
Can't stand runners?  Get in a Jet.
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2009, 12:52:39 PM »
Landing taters is always fun  :aok

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Offline BaldEagl

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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2009, 01:05:22 PM »
I haven't played much in months but the last couple of times I did I didn't have any problem finding good fights.  I've been flying the I-16 almost exclusively my last few times up and the Bf-110G-2 before that.  I figured after all my lobbying for the I-16 I better fly it.  The I-16 seems to be a fight magnet and most of these fights have been 1 on 1 or 1 on 2, particularily against Spits.  I even got into a 1 on 1 with a Jug.  I don't know what he was thinking.  I knew I'd love this plane.

What I have noticed lately is the nearly complete and utter lack of anything to fight other than Spits, P-51D's, Doras, K-4's and La-7's.
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2009, 01:08:45 PM »
I'm lucky. I fly to the horde kill a few, get killed or rtb.  Sometimes on the way to or from a horde I find a nice 1v1.  I'm lucky in that this is fun for me.

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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2009, 01:18:10 PM »
In a way BnZs I agree but...I fly mostly Luftwaffe iron and 1v1 is not a good method of survival against all the Spixteens and Tempests being flown in the MA's these days...there is no way I'm going to stick around in my 109G6 against a Spixteen 1v1 unless I started out with an advantage...if I lose it then that's on me, but if it's comin at me and I have the chance to seek assistance...I'm gonna do it. Can't generally stand ack runners myself and I try not to do it. Getting "rope a doped" is just a one of those "it happens"...I'm always mindful of being setup for it and if I'm in a crowd I'll participate.


You shouldn't let it get to you...just do your thing and let the rest of the wannabe's stroke their egos or whine, b*$ch and moan on 200
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2009, 01:52:58 PM »
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2009, 02:00:31 PM »
there is no way I'm going to stick around in my 109G6 against a Spixteen 1v1 unless I started out with an advantage...

Why not?  You're assuming that the XVIs you run into have competent pilots.  95% of the time they do not.  The only time I would think twice about fighting a XVI in the 109G-6 1vs1 is when I have more than 75% fuel.  If you fly the 109G-6 decently, then you should be able to beat 95% of XVI pilots from a position of disadvantage.

edit:  Here's a nice example: http://www.mediafire.com/?jet4mnjgm13
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2009, 02:16:09 PM »
There has always been lame behavior in the MA, but it was formerly mostly the province of the noobish, the desperate, etc. It is my observation that it is now being applied in a refined (I will not use the word "skilled") and systematic manner. Honkin' on the stick and HOing is a primary guns defense for the planes which have the turn rate and firepower. "Runners" aren't just some poor guy in a P-51 diving away from 3 Spits anymore...it is any and every plane heading for ack and friends at the first hint of trouble, really no matter the matchup. I mean, there seem to be great numbers of players whose whole purpose is not to engage the enemy themselves and get valid kills at all, but simply to drag individuals to gang bangs or ack-ack guns. Most planes now seem unwilling to leave their horde for a 1v1 against a singleton, if they do follow you far enough, they often try to run at the first sign you will put up a decent fight, no matter the maneuverability situation. (I have seen an La7 run from an FW-190. I kid you not.) These things have gone from being exceptions to the rule, IMO. I have lost respect for perhaps the majority of pilots playing. I'm beginning to suspect the MA culture not only isn't a majority of the old guard ACM types, it doesn't even respect those values. The monkeys have taken over the temple.

I will actually fight it out from a neutral situation, confident of the win until proven wrong. I used to think that was the bare-minimum, bottom rung standard. But apparently that standard actually puts you head and shoulders above the "pack" these days.

You are wrong about one thing.  It was never the nubes or the desperate.  It has always been the so called vets.  Pay attention and you will see there is always one of them 2 or 3 plains back waiting for the faster ones to engage you
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2009, 02:35:14 PM »
I haven't played much in months but the last couple of times I did I didn't have any problem finding good fights.  I've been flying the I-16 almost exclusively my last few times up and the Bf-110G-2 before that.  I figured after all my lobbying for the I-16 I better fly it.  The I-16 seems to be a fight magnet and most of these fights have been 1 on 1 or 1 on 2, particularily against Spits.  I even got into a 1 on 1 with a Jug.  I don't know what he was thinking.  I knew I'd love this plane.

What I have noticed lately is the nearly complete and utter lack of anything to fight other than Spits, P-51D's, Doras, K-4's and La-7's.

I got into a fight with a a6m in my yak 9t the other day really fun fight. I see more 38s than anything I don't mind though big barn flying around. La-7 though is really fun to fly.

Fights are out there.
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2009, 02:36:04 PM »
I got into a fight with a a6m in my yak 9t the other day really fun fight. I see more 38s than anything I don't mind though big barn flying around. La-7 though is really fun to fly.

Fights are out there.
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2009, 02:53:45 PM »
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2009, 03:07:05 PM »
"Bongo did the same thing to me"

:) IMO the only thing more satisfying, than diving thru a cloud of enemy to kill one of thier
own landing safley,  would be to shoot a chootist with one round of ammo. Plink.. BOOM!

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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2009, 03:10:22 PM »
Even someone with a big E advantage is okay as long as they are willing to engage (even if they zoom back up) but the ones that have the 'automatic E machine' known as the K4 and they refuse to push the engagement at all... they deserve the ack treatment.
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Re: Game is reaching new lows.
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2009, 03:16:40 PM »
Why not?  You're assuming that the XVIs you run into have competent pilots.  95% of the time they do not.  The only time I would think twice about fighting a XVI in the 109G-6 1vs1 is when I have more than 75% fuel.  If you fly the 109G-6 decently, then you should be able to beat 95% of XVI pilots from a position of disadvantage.

edit:  Here's a nice example: http://www.mediafire.com/?jet4mnjgm13
LOL...what are you thinking? I always fly the G-6 with 100% fuel. I like having enough fuel to grab alt from an uncapped base and run head long into a fight with enough e to smash and dash if I can help it. It's when those silly Spixteens manage to get on my six that they become a real problem.  :D
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