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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #90 on: January 08, 2010, 09:57:22 AM »
We have Mcdonalds? All I see is KFC.

Eating at KFC is even worse in the eyes of PETA, as the poor chickens are abused and mistreated their entire life, before we eat them.

Pamela Anderson is now KFC's top celebrity helping to lead the protests against KFC:




The Reverend Al Sharpton has also joined her in calling for a nation-wide boycott of eating at KFC:




Sadly, though, the Chinese are totally ignoring Sharpton's pleas.  Instead, KFC is currently the fastest growing restaurant chain in China:


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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #91 on: January 08, 2010, 10:28:04 AM »
I didn't watch the video (saw couple pictures), the vessel of least maneuverability has right of way period, and if the fishing vessel has nets in the water even more so does it have right of way in this case. They were both underway making way meaning they were both under thier own power and not adrift.
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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #92 on: January 08, 2010, 10:29:54 AM »
:rofl :rofl

nice vid of sea shepherds boat ramming and than get stuck on an iceberg...

-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDsZcLVXyn8&feature=related

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #93 on: January 08, 2010, 10:31:13 AM »
I'd like to see a good answer to that one as well. I always hear some exceedingly fuzzy argument regarding that and some canary in the coal mine argument. I doubt either would survive serious scrutiny.

I'd also like to see the means by which these eco-chupadores estimate the size of the whale population. It's probably as shammy as East Anglia's climate "data". Part of the reason I say as much is because of direct experience with both Mountain Lions and Golden Eagles in Southeast Michigan. Neither are officially here per the DNR and Audubon societies, respectively, yet there is ample evidence (including, in the case of the Golden Eagle, an unmistakeable encounter I had with one just outside of Ann Arbor) that both still exist here in the lower peninsula of Michigan.

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #94 on: January 08, 2010, 10:38:01 AM »
:rofl :rofl

nice vid of sea shepherds boat ramming and than get stuck on an iceberg...

-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDsZcLVXyn8&feature=related

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2010, 10:48:03 AM »
It's plain to see that the whalers intentionally rammed the batboat on both videos and that Tank Town Island must be captured. :bolt:

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #96 on: January 08, 2010, 11:48:31 AM »
It's plain to see that the whalers intentionally rammed the batboat on both videos and that Tank Town Island must be captured. :bolt:

You obviously don't understand the rules of the road in navigating the ocean.

Smaller, faster, and more maneuverable boats don't have the right of way.   There was no way that the boat should have been anywhere even remotely near the Japanese whaler in the first place.

If they want to violate basic rules of navigation and put themselves at grave risk by taking dangerous maneuvers in close, then tell me this:  Whose fault is it then that a collision occurred?

It is pretty obvious that these are Whale Jihadists seeking Martyrdom in their cause.  What reward they might get once they get to Paradise, is unknown.

Perhaps they will get to swim with dolphins?

It would be most ironic if God instead threw them into the water with a pod of hungry Killer Whales.

BTW, here is a photo of a group of whale loving tourists off Norway snorkeling with a pod of Killer Whales, trying to make friends with them:




Some people really are fanatic about loving whales.

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #97 on: January 08, 2010, 12:02:52 PM »
 I think dredger was being a little sarcastic there. The tank town kinda gave it away :aok
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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #98 on: January 08, 2010, 01:18:08 PM »
You obviously don't understand the rules of the road in navigating the ocean.

Smaller, faster, and more maneuverable boats don't have the right of way.   

In point of fact you do not understand the rules of navigation on the ocean.  A boat approaching from your starboard (right) side has right of way. If you are approaching another boat from its starboard side, you have right of way.  That is maritime 101, look it up if you don't believe me.

This applies to powered boats (not sailboats).  The reason this law is universally applied is to avoid two ships captains getting in an argument over who is more manoeuvrable and faster, and thus should yield to the other.  Can you imagine how ludicrous such a situation would be.

It can clearly be seen from both videos that the whaling vessel made a hard turn to starboard (right) with the intention of ramming the batboat.

Maybe the batboat guys had it coming, but you can't discount the plain visual evidence just because you empathize with the whalers.


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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #99 on: January 08, 2010, 01:23:47 PM »
 It doesnt look that clear cut to me. They sure werent trying to get out of the way of that whaler by any stretch of the imagination. All I see is a smaller craft trying to be a pain in the bellybutton and getting caught with their pants down. Sorry about their luck.
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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #100 on: January 08, 2010, 01:43:50 PM »
It doesnt look that clear cut to me. They sure werent trying to get out of the way of that whaler by any stretch of the imagination. All I see is a smaller craft trying to be a pain in the bellybutton and getting caught with their pants down. Sorry about their luck.

Clearly the whalers thought they were in the right...  Otherwise, why would they release the video taken from their perspective.  We all know why the Batboat people would want to release video.  For them, the media attention is golden.  They have every motivation to get the video out, and every motivation to stage their video in such a way that their agendas are served.

You have to ask yourself why, if they swerved to strike the batboat, would the whalers release video footage that would be damning to them?

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2010, 01:49:50 PM »
 Then again if ya screw with a dog enough your gonna get bit.
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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #102 on: January 08, 2010, 01:50:36 PM »
In point of fact you do not understand the rules of navigation on the ocean.  A boat approaching from your starboard (right) side has right of way. If you are approaching another boat from its starboard side, you have right of way.  That is maritime 101, look it up if you don't believe me.

This applies to powered boats (not sailboats).  The reason this law is universally applied is to avoid two ships captains getting in an argument over who is more manoeuvrable and faster, and thus should yield to the other.  Can you imagine how ludicrous such a situation would be.

That's not... really logical. If I hop out on the bay in a Sea-Doo sportster, and approach a tanker from the starboard side... do you honestly think you have the right of way? Or is it your responsibility to keep your toy out of the tanker's path?

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #103 on: January 08, 2010, 02:23:25 PM »
That's not... really logical. If I hop out on the bay in a Sea-Doo sportster, and approach a tanker from the starboard side... do you honestly think you have the right of way? Or is it your responsibility to keep your toy out of the tanker's path?

Well, each country has it's rules governing what are known as 'inland waters'.  Those are narrow channels, western rivers, bays, harbors, etc.   Large ships for example in harbors are classified as 'vessels constrained by the draught', and are afforded more right of way.

In open sea, the rules are governed by the 'International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREGS)'.  For the most part, a ship to the right has the right of way.  There are some caveats to that, for example fishing vessels and ships classified as 'vessels restricted in her ability to manoeuvre”

What is apparent though, is the whaling vessel makes a hard turn to starboard in order the ram the batboat.

In other words, the whaling boat deliberately changes path in order to affect a collision.  That is a use of deadly force, luckily for the greenies no one got killed.

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Re: Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two
« Reply #104 on: January 08, 2010, 02:34:12 PM »
There are some caveats to that, for example fishing vessels and ships classified as 'vessels restricted in her ability to manoeuvre”

So it is the activists responsibility to get out of the way.

I don't know who rammed who, and I don't want to make a judgement call on it based on just some videos... but by what you just said, the greenies are at fault for the entire situation to begin with for getting too close to an un-maneuverable ship in open waters.