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Offline JunkyII

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #165 on: January 11, 2010, 11:18:52 PM »
I don't think they are criticizing how you fly..... they seem to be just laughing.
I dont know whats funnier, the jokes about flying at 30k......or him not being able to take a joke :aok


honestly Chalenge or voss(who I dont even know) all fun and games ;)
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #166 on: January 11, 2010, 11:52:07 PM »
I dont know whats funnier, the jokes about flying at 30k......or him not being able to take a joke :aok


honestly Chalenge or voss(who I dont even know) all fun and games ;)

you gotta be careful about joking with thu dammag of thu brayne poepl.  :noid
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #167 on: January 12, 2010, 12:37:43 AM »
TW9, whats your in game callsign?

sorry just noticed this. its TW9 oO
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #168 on: January 12, 2010, 12:39:25 AM »
sorry just noticed this. its TW9 oO

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #169 on: January 12, 2010, 12:51:35 AM »
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #170 on: January 12, 2010, 12:52:05 AM »
sorry just noticed this. its TW9 oO
ah, just never seen you online :salute
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #171 on: January 12, 2010, 01:04:27 AM »
ah, just never seen you online :salute

Yeah he's an old time Muppet covered in cobwebs and dust.  He's technically 'active' but I have yet to see him either.  <G>

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #172 on: January 12, 2010, 01:16:20 AM »
ah, just never seen you online :salute

lol ya i re-upped a months worth after 2-3 year vaca only to get maybe 2 or 3 days of flying in. Just dont have the time now days. maybe in a couple months i can embrace the skies with my L33tNe355  :aok
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #173 on: January 12, 2010, 01:25:15 AM »
lol ya i re-upped a months worth after 2-3 year vaca only to get maybe 2 or 3 days of flying in. Just dont have the time now days. maybe in a couple months i can embrace the skies with my L33tNe355  :aok
Ill be glad to fight ya when you get back to dust-off some cobb webs.........hope you still got it :devil :salute
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #174 on: January 12, 2010, 04:50:31 AM »
I dont know whats funnier, the jokes about flying at 30k......or him not being able to take a joke :aok


honestly Chalenge or voss(who I dont even know) all fun and games ;)
Nothing funny about Voss. Read Lute's post above fully. There is good reason why he shunned by the flight sim community as a whole.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #175 on: January 12, 2010, 08:05:29 AM »
Nothing funny about Voss. Read Lute's post above fully. There is good reason why he shunned by the flight sim community as a whole.
I saw something about him taking money or something, Id hope these were just rumors......the quality of people is going down in this world  :(
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #176 on: January 12, 2010, 08:24:23 AM »
I saw something about him taking money or something, Id hope these were just rumors......the quality of people is going down in this world  :(

Junky, what Voss did is well known and documented.  If ANYTHING what he did is played down in that thread.

The guy really is a scum bag.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #177 on: January 12, 2010, 08:48:32 AM »
Junky, what Voss did is well known and documented.  If ANYTHING what he did is played down in that thread.

The guy really is a scum bag.

What he said  :aok

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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #178 on: January 12, 2010, 08:59:09 AM »
There is almost no relationship between duelling and MA fighting except in regard to the most fundamental aspects of performing ACMs in general.

When duelling there are rules and restrictions that limit choice and freedom of action from the hanger to the merge. So, initiative tends to remain rather balanced and the longer the fight, the more restricted your options become as E states degrade, it is a game of move and counter-move. Duels are largely determined by the proper selection of those moves and counter-moves and their efficient execution relative to your opponent. Outside of that finite realm there are relatively few decisions to be made based upon almost perfect information until the final outcome. It's a fairly straightforward process.

MA fighting, on the other-hand, is an endless stream of open ended decisions that must constantly be made and acted upon. Unlike in duels, the conditions are both  infinitely varied and dynamically changing with both known and unknown mitigating variables. The initiative swings wildly back and forth between yourself and your opponent(s) and unlike duelling your decisions are intrinsically based upon only partial and imperfect information. This chaotic environment produces a plethora of decisions that you must make throughout with subsequent results that are unique to ones' own mental disposition, approach to the game and relative plane performance considerations. No two people will enter a fray and perform the exact same maneuvers, make the same decisions and actions or think of the fight in the same way.

In summary, the primary focus of duels leans toward the physical stick-work of flying itself, wheras MA fighting's focus is primarily on mental acuity and decision making.
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Re: Dueling vs MA fighting
« Reply #179 on: January 12, 2010, 11:44:26 AM »
There is almost no relationship between duelling and MA fighting except in regard to the most fundamental aspects of performing ACMs in general.

When duelling there are rules and restrictions that limit choice and freedom of action from the hanger to the merge. So, initiative tends to remain rather balanced and the longer the fight, the more restricted your options become as E states degrade, it is a game of move and counter-move. Duels are largely determined by the proper selection of those moves and counter-moves and their efficient execution relative to your opponent. Outside of that finite realm there are relatively few decisions to be made based upon almost perfect information until the final outcome. It's a fairly straightforward process.

MA fighting, on the other-hand, is an endless stream of open ended decisions that must constantly be made and acted upon. Unlike in duels, the conditions are both  infinitely varied and dynamically changing with both known and unknown mitigating variables. The initiative swings wildly back and forth between yourself and your opponent(s) and unlike duelling your decisions are intrinsically based upon only partial and imperfect information. This chaotic environment produces a plethora of decisions that you must make throughout with subsequent results that are unique to ones' own mental disposition, approach to the game and relative plane performance considerations. No two people will enter a fray and perform the exact same maneuvers, make the same decisions and actions or think of the fight in the same way.

In summary, the primary focus of duels leans toward the physical stick-work of flying itself, wheras MA fighting's focus is primarily on mental acuity and decision making.

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