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Offline JunkyII

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Alt Cap
« on: January 10, 2010, 09:27:58 AM »
Has this ever been lowered or raised before? Since I have participated in KOTH its always been 6k. Has anyone thought about making the alt limit based on how many are still in the fight? Last two have no alt limit, last 4 it bumps up or down to like 4 or 8k ect ect

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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 03:17:23 PM »
Well people had trouble seeing the 'alt cap' so to speak so we introduced the cloud layer. The cloud layer can not be arbitrarily moved up or down at will. I believe we used to have an 8k alt cap but we lowered it to 6k.
A variable alt cap would only cause problems imo.
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 08:03:59 PM »
Quote from: fuzeman on January 11, 2010, 03:17:23 PM
Well people had trouble seeing the 'alt cap' so to speak so we introduced the cloud layer. The cloud layer can not be arbitrarily moved up or down at will. I believe we used to have an 8k alt cap but we lowered it to 6k.
A variable alt cap would only cause problems imo.

KOTH used to have a variable alt cap way back when...

IIRC they had a "Cruise" cap, and then a "Zoom" cap 2k higher.  It was either 4k/6k or 6k/8k or some such thing.

Was a huge pain in the tookus for the hosting CM and almost impossible to enforce.

6k is just about "perfect" for an alt cap.
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 09:01:41 PM »
Quote from: WMLute on January 11, 2010, 08:03:59 PM
KOTH used to have a variable alt cap way back when...

IIRC they had a "Cruise" cap, and then a "Zoom" cap 2k higher.  It was either 4k/6k or 6k/8k or some such thing.

Was a huge pain in the tookus for the hosting CM and almost impossible to enforce.

6k is just about "perfect" for an alt cap.

yep it started out as 6k / 8k max ceiling..........it did not last very long at all......... then we kept ( well the KOTH CM's did ) the 6k alt cap for a good while until they eventually introduced the cloud layer......

but back then, without the cloud layer, most participants would humblely bail/.ef without question and would apologize for ruining the fight they was in....... the character of them old players was like legendary........ no CM had to order or insist for an alt brker to bail out or end flight......

for the longest while the respect & atitude of the KOTH participants was hardly ever questioned......... the fights were of epic proportions many a time..... and the thought of having to send a film in for review was unheard of.......

thats what I recall......
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 09:23:17 PM »
Quote from: fuzeman on January 11, 2010, 03:17:23 PM
A variable alt cap would only cause problems imo.
If the alt changed before the last 2 I can see it being a big problem. But with the last 2 we already change the rules, If there was no alt cap it would make it so the 2 dont have to worry about anything other then the fight. I had this problem in the last KOTH I was in, me and 18whiskey were the last 2 in a KI84 round, I baited him into a merge where you have to rope your opponent for it to work, It was all good until I saw the cloud layer and decided to spilt S giving him a really easy shot. Im not saying the fight would have turned out differently,18whiskey is a very cabable stick like all those that make it to last 2, I just think when at last 2 the players shouldnt have to worry about anything other then beating the other guy

Just my opionion that thought might be able to get debated a bit :salute
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 04:15:09 AM »
6k makes people fight.  if you want to do an e merge dive in and hope your opponent merges with you on deck.
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 04:37:24 AM »
Quote from: Bruv119 on January 12, 2010, 04:15:09 AM
6k makes people fight.  if you want to do an e merge dive in and hope your opponent merges with you on deck.
Thats why I put out the "last 2" part. I understand why we have the alt cap the rest of the time, with 2 you cant not fight because you have to head to the nearest fight, right? Its already almost no rules in the final 2 anyway.
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 08:08:43 AM »
not gonna change, especially during the round.  That requires us CM's to constantly change wind settings during each round.  I will not do that.
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 08:12:53 AM »
Quote from: AKDogg on January 12, 2010, 08:08:43 AM
not gonna change, especially during the round.  That requires us CM's to constantly change wind settings during each round.  I will not do that.
AH forgot about the wind, definately a hassle thinking about the wind.......Dogg I hate you :D :salute
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Re: Alt Cap
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 03:31:58 PM »
I am confused, what is the difference between 6K 8K 10K or 100K if both guys can climb that high?
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