Big Mac FINALLLY Comes clean on the use of 'roids

[sntslilhlpr6601]

Big Mac better fess up if he's gonna be a hitting coach for the Cards.

But I don't blame him for doing it. I don't blame the players one bit. You can be mad at them for cheating and being poor role models, but all they were doing was trying to stay competitive. You can blame the league for not snuffing it out as soon as it became a problem. They didn't, and the players had to do what they had to do in order to keep their jobs.

It could even be argued that the steroid era was a necessary evil for the revival of baseball after the strike. I don't know about that though. I do know that I still hate Barry Bonds, though. Not for his juicing, but for his piss poor attitude.

Its amazing looking back on those years and seeing how obvious it all was. And yet most of us had no clue. You can tell just by looking at someone if they're juicing or not, especially with a baseball player. The season is too long and hard to grow muscles that big. You can't work out all the time like with football. It is nice watching baseball now that its relatively clean. Nice to see all the young guys stepping up too.

Just my 2cents.

[lowZX14]

An unenforced rule is no rule at all.  The league and the owners are just as culpable as the players--maybe more so.  And yes, I know they're bad; I'm certainly not trying to white-wash their use, just trying to argue that we shouldn't bash the players only here.  As for Bonds, all he needs to do is come out and tell the truth, fess up like Mac did, and I'd have the same regard for him.

Oh I totally agree with you that the rule does no good without enforcing it, I was just saying that it was there.  It shows like you said that the league and owners are at just as much fault for not doing something about it.  I was saying the same thing that the players shouldn't really get bashed too much on here, they did what they had to do.  As for Bonds, I'm not so bothered by the use of steroids or other pes's with him, it's more about the perjury, tax evasion, and just overall attitude that was mentioned earlier.  I just wanted to hear some others thoughts on Hall of Famers who have admitted to cheating in one form or another, and why they think steroids are considered cheating in the first place.  I've never used them myself, nor ever will unless prescribed by a doctor for some condition in which I have to use them, and will always tell my players to stay away, but if someone wants to use them that's their business.

[Anaxogoras]

I've never used them myself, nor ever will unless prescribed by a doctor for some condition in which I have to use them, and will always tell my players to stay away, but if someone wants to use them that's their business.

Dude.

[lowZX14]

Dude.

Yes? 

[Shuffler]

Big Mac better fess up if he's gonna be a hitting coach for the Cards.

But I don't blame him for doing it. I don't blame the players one bit. You can be mad at them for cheating and being poor role models, but all they were doing was trying to stay competitive. You can blame the league for not snuffing it out as soon as it became a problem. They didn't, and the players had to do what they had to do in order to keep their jobs.

It could even be argued that the steroid era was a necessary evil for the revival of baseball after the strike. I don't know about that though. I do know that I still hate Barry Bonds, though. Not for his juicing, but for his piss poor attitude.

Its amazing looking back on those years and seeing how obvious it all was. And yet most of us had no clue. You can tell just by looking at someone if they're juicing or not, especially with a baseball player. The season is too long and hard to grow muscles that big. You can't work out all the time like with football. It is nice watching baseball now that its relatively clean. Nice to see all the young guys stepping up too.

Just my 2cents.

Yeah yeah..... NO!....


You act like no one is at fault. They all are that participated. None should be in the hall. If any are then it rates no more than a freak museum. Pay a dollar to see the bearded woman.

It would not help one bit if they even asteriked it. Real record and record on drugs.

[RedDg]

In other news, water is wet.  Film at 11.

[sntslilhlpr6601]

Yeah yeah..... NO!....


You act like no one is at fault. They all are that participated. None should be in the hall. If any are then it rates no more than a freak museum. Pay a dollar to see the bearded woman.

It would not help one bit if they even asteriked it. Real record and record on drugs.

And what about all the guys that did coke or speed?

I agree with you in that the juicers should not be in the hall. Increasing bat speed from added strength is a hell of a lot more productive than improving reaction time from stimulants. But the records are there and I don't think they are gonna do a damn thing about them. We will all just have to remember which numbers are from the steroid era (its pretty obvious). I still consider Hank Aaron as the home run king.

I'm not saying that the fact they were juicing should be ignored, I'm just of the opinion that you can't blame them entirely for doing it.

[Shuffler]

No one has to remember squat. That is my point. If these dopers are allowed in then the folks who actually worked hard to be better will be tarnished too. Instead of a hall of fame it'll be nothing but a freak museum.

If the plane goes down... it goes down with everyone in it.

[maddafinga]

Everyone seems to focus on the hitters.  Half or more of the guys that have been caught have been pitchers.  Is it only fair for the pitchers to be on but not the hitters?

If we all want a truly even playing field then I say they should make steroids mandatory. 

[Anaxogoras]

And what about all the guys that did coke or speed?

Yup.  We're not even touching on the use of amphetamines.  I've heard that going without them is called playing "naked."

Coke doesn't really matter though.  If you play sports under the influence of performance-decreasing drugs, and are still successful, you deserve a medal.  Same goes for that Canadian snowboarder in the Olympics some years back; he should have received two medals once he tested positive for marijuana.

[Stoney]

If you play sports under the influence of performance-decreasing drugs, and are still successful, you deserve a medal.

That's what so amazing about Lawrence Taylor--imagine how good he could have been if he'd been sober. 

[Anaxogoras]

It's a joke stoney.

[Stoney]

It's a joke stoney.

Sorry, I was replying in kind.  One of these days, I'll find a sense of humor...   

[Scherf]

An Olympic swimmer told me (yea, these many years ago) he gave the sport up after posting times on coke which he couldn't match sober.

[Anaxogoras]

An Olympic swimmer told me (yea, these many years ago) he gave the sport up after posting times on coke which he couldn't match sober.

Interesting.  I've never heard before that cocaine could improve athletic performance.  Ah well, I guess I'll have to strike it off the list of performance-decreasing drugs in sports.

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Eh, stoney, sometimes my humor radar is broken.