F7F Tigercat!!

[jolly22]

Role Fighter aircraft
Manufacturer Grumman
First flight 2 November 1943
Introduced 1944
Retired 1954
Primary users United States Navy
United States Marine Corps
Produced 1943–1946
Number built 364
General characteristicsCrew: 2 (pilot, radar operator)
Length: 45 ft 4 in (13.8 m)
Wingspan: 51 ft 6 in (15.7 m)
Height: 16 ft 7 in (5.1 m)
Wing area: 455 ft² (42.3 m²)
Empty weight: 16,270 lb (7,380 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 25,720 lb (11,670 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W "Double Wasp" radial engines, 2,100 hp (1,566 kW) each
PerformanceMaximum speed: 460 mph (400 knots, 740 km/h)
Range: 1,200 mi (1,000 nmi, 1,900 km)
Service ceiling: 40,400 ft (12,300 m)
Rate of climb: 4,530 ft/min (1,381 m/min)
ArmamentGuns:
4 × 20 mm (0.79 in) M2 cannon
4 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine gun
Bombs:
2 × 1,000 lb (454 kg) bombs under wings or
1 × torpedo under fuselage


American version of the mossie or 110...Can be a great CV killer.

[Saxman]

Didn't see combat in WWII.

[jolly22]

cc didnt read that......delete please

[TwinBoom]

Didn't see combat in WWII.

often wondered why it was deployed on mission and it was patrolling just didnt engage
how much combat did the 152`s see

[Lusche]

often wondered why it was deployed on mission and it was patrolling just didnt engage
how much combat did the 152`s see

More than the Tigercat

[sandwich]

-1 if you think it will be added in the next two years.

+1 after 2 years.

We NEED to add the 111, G4M, Ki 43, Yak 3, Beaufighter

I WANT Spit XII, Pe 2, Me 109g-10, Westland Whirlwind, Hurricane mk IIb, A-26, Fairey Swordfish and the 38H.

[whels]

More than the Tigercat

the only reason the 152 saw combat was because the enemy was flying over their
airfields,  and not traveling 4k miles to front lines.

If  a plane was in PRODUCTION and in Squadron service during WW2, it should be in
AH eventually. Which both F7F and F8F meet.

[gyrene81]

If  a plane was in PRODUCTION and in Squadron service during WW2, it should be in
AH eventually. Which both F7F and F8F meet.

There are other criteria, hence the arguments about combat usage...which neither the F7F nor F8F as well as other planes meet...but hey, it's ok to wish.

[TwinBoom]

the only reason the 152 saw combat was because the enemy was flying over their
airfields,  and not traveling 4k miles to front lines.

If  a plane was in PRODUCTION and in Squadron service during WW2, it should be in
AH eventually. Which both F7F and F8F meet.

my point exactly

[Lusche]

the only reason the 152 saw combat was because the enemy was flying over their
airfields,  and not traveling 4k miles to front lines.

If  a plane was in PRODUCTION and in Squadron service during WW2, it should be in
AH eventually. Which both F7F and F8F meet.

It's still a  just "what if".
You could take that even further "The only reason the Do 335 didn't see combat was because the factory was bombed."


The "it had to see action" rule is a very reasonable one. Either a weapon did see combat... or it did not.

[Shifty]

It's still a  just "what if".

Speaking of what if... What if Spitfires fought Mustangs? What if Hellcats fought Yaks? What if FW-190s fought N1K2s? That's just three examples that this sim is nothing but what ifs happening every minute.
As it is now the most popular part of this sim seems to be a fantasy war between three fantasy countries all flying the same aircraft. I don't understand how aircraft like the F8F, F7F, P-80, Gloster Meteor, DO-335, or any other aircraft  flying when the war ended could damage the historical integrity of a sim that's all fantasy anyway. 

Just saying...

[sandwich]

Speaking of what if... What if Spitfires fought Mustangs? What if Hellcats fought Yaks? What if FW-190s fought N1K2s? That's just three examples that this sim is nothing but what ifs happening every minute.
As it is now the most popular part of this sim seems to be a fantasy war between three fantasy countries all flying the same aircraft. I don't understand how aircraft like the F8F, F7F, P-80, Gloster Meteor, DO-335, or any other aircraft  flying when the war ended could damage the historical integrity of a sim that's all fantasy anyway. 

Just saying...

That is a damn good point.

I never thought of that before.

[Lusche]

Speaking of what if... What if Spitfires fought Mustangs? What if Hellcats fought Yaks? What if FW-190s fought N1K2s? That's just three examples that this sim is nothing but what ifs happening every minute.
As it is now the most popular part of this sim seems to be a fantasy war between three fantasy countries all flying the same aircraft. I don't understand how aircraft like the F8F, F7F, P-80, Gloster Meteor, DO-335, or any other aircraft  flying when the war ended could damage the historical integrity of a sim that's all fantasy anyway. 

Just saying...

Ok. Bring on the F-22 to the MA!   

Or more serious: This game isn't simulating WWII, just equipment that was used WWII.
And true, a "must have seen combat" is just a deliberately set rule. But I like it, because it's a very simple and clear one. Once you go further it's getting less and less clear. Did it equip a squadron? Was it really combat ready? Or do we end up with "prototype has flown"? (This is a discussion very similar to the "be on pavement to get safe landing" one)
Personally, I'd love to fly a Do 335, but in my opinion it's juts beyond the scope. I'd even prefer the addition of important planes that actually played a important role (Ki 43, Do 217 and so on) over adding planes like the He 162 (which actually did see combat).

YMMV, and maybe HiTechs will do too, some day

[Shifty]

I'd even prefer the addition of important planes that actually played a important role (Ki 43, Do 217 and so on) over adding planes like the He 162 (which actually did see combat).

YMMV, and maybe HiTechs will do too, some day

I agree with you, I'd prefer to have the aircraft that played a significant historical role first and foremost.

[SpiveyCH]

Marine Corps night fighter squadron VMF(N)-513 flying F7F-3N Tigercats saw action in the early stages of the Korean War, flying night interdiction and fighter missions and shooting down two Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes. This was the only combat use of the aircraft.