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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2010, 09:45:30 PM »
You have a brother named Chalenge?

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2010, 10:52:53 PM »
I feel for my buff friends. If you like to fly bombers, you just can't do it right.

Bomb an airbase - "Toolshedder!"
Sink a CV - "Fun police!"
Bomb vehicles - "Lame griefer!"
Ok... now you organize raid to the last target left, which is really meant to be bombed: - "Scorepadder!"  (Which is actually quite wrong, doing large raids to distant city target is a particular bad way to pad your score, which actually do come close to offline bombing)

If you fly at an altitude that gives you at least a chance to get to your target (must still makes return unlikely) - "Sissy!"

Everybody seems to expect you to fly at an convenient altitude for 3-6 sectors in enemy airspace, so that he doesn't have to watch the map for any signs of a raid and up early to intercept, but can just takeoff whenever he pleases and blow low & slow buffs out of the sky within 5 minutes.

Oh, and for the record: While 15k over a frontline base is usually plenty of altitude for any bomber, it's a whole different thing for flying to the strats, particularly if you are not alone. Flying for 30 mins through enemy airspace towards a totally predictable target is almost guaranteed to getting you killed before even getting there by a gaggle of 262', Ta's, 47M's. Even when you come in at 20k.

I for one enjoy fighting you buffs up there. The first weeks after strat change where tremendous fun to me, even though I lost way more fighters to your guns and escorts than usual.  :rock
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2010, 11:16:57 PM »
I don't care if he flies at 60k. I'll just laugh knowing he is not affecting me one bit.   :D
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2010, 12:37:41 AM »
getting "swarmed" by fighters at 30K?????????? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
No kidding.
Why not just do it off line? Same fun filled bombing....Same resistance from fighters.   ;)
Exactly, they milk run because of the lack of "swarming fighters".   

Every time we have run a strat mission, we always have to deal with multiple 262's, 163's, 190's, TA's. We've left with 20+ bombers and come back with 6. So yea, we get swarmed. By your comments, it's apparent you've never been on a strat run, much less try to stop one.

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2010, 12:46:36 AM »
I don't care if he flies at 60k. I'll just laugh knowing he is not affecting me one bit.   :D

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2010, 03:31:08 AM »
Every time we have run a strat mission, we always have to deal with multiple 262's, 163's, 190's, TA's. We've left with 20+ bombers and come back with 6. So yea, we get swarmed. By your comments, it's apparent you've never been on a strat run, much less try to stop one.



nope on both accounts and that is not gonna change anytime soon :aok

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2010, 03:41:09 AM »
OK, this is going in a useless direction now. So back to my question. Does anyone know when the clock starts running on a factory? Does it start with destruction, or when the city starts to regenerate itself? Also any experiences (timings, good angles of approach, that sort of thing) would be appreciated.

Please, if you're just going to place flames or insults, go somewhere else. I'm just asking some simple questions.

nope on both accounts and that is not gonna change anytime soon :aok
So by your own admission, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just posting to flame and harass.
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2010, 03:49:11 AM »
OK, this is going in a useless direction now. So back to my question. Does anyone know when the clock starts running on a factory? Does it start with destruction, or when the city starts to regenerate itself? Also any experiences (timings, good angles of approach, that sort of thing) would be appreciated.

Please, if you're just going to place flames or insults, go somewhere else. I'm just asking some simple questions.
So by your own admission, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just posting to flame and harass.

um No, I have been in these skies long enough to "know" what goes on and at 30 you dont get "swarmed" as you put it,   maybe now a days that the Bombers are going higher you may get some fighters up there but I highly doubt you are ever swarmed. unless you are like many in here and Think two cons on ya is a Gang. :rofl

now post up some pics of these swarms and I will be corrected.

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2010, 07:52:49 AM »
um No, I have been in these skies long enough to "know" what goes on and at 30 you dont get "swarmed" as you put it,   maybe now a days that the Bombers are going higher you may get some fighters up there but I highly doubt you are ever swarmed. unless you are like many in here and Think two cons on ya is a Gang. :rofl

now post up some pics of these swarms and I will be corrected.

Again, I've got to disagree. I distinctly remember getting swarmed by lots of Rook Ta152's as we were headed south in our B17's. Some influential Rook was smart enough to observe our darbar heading slowly toward their homeland, and organized a pretty forceful interception heading north to meet us. Man, was that ever a fun fight!

The 91st & company has been escorted by plenty of pilots/squads that have gotten held up fighting off interceptors. To hell with "scorepadding". I don't even play that much to care. I come home, eat my dinner, BS with the family, have a beer, and occasionally throughout the work week, I'll find time to get on here & have fun.

That's what I don't get, along with Lusche. Why is it people are so obtuse enough that when HiTech makes a change, when the new wears off, some smart*** has got to bash others enjoyment of that change? A while ago, it was "WTFG HiTech! Wow! The strat looks cool! Makes for some awesome missions!" Now it's, "The bombers are too high, and we don't have the patience for it. We know the game best, and you guys are just padding scores."

Nothing saying the instant-gratification crowd has to go after them anyway. Go have your definition of fun. Just save the bashing for your low altitude opponents in your part of the sandbox.
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2010, 08:46:55 AM »
I really dont understand why people despise high altitude fighting. Afterall, it does make for some historically accurate situations.

History makes no difference to the moonbats in the game. If you think different than the 'Im so great because I spitball' crowd or the 'Muppets and POTW group hug' crowd then you just dont know what fun is. Just ask a moonbat... you are not allowed to have fun doing ANYTHING else.
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2010, 08:53:26 AM »
History makes no difference to the moonbats in the game. If you think different than the 'Im so great because I spitball' crowd or the 'Muppets and POTW group hug' crowd then you just dont know what fun is. Just ask a moonbat... you are not allowed to have fun doing ANYTHING else.

You teach folks how to run from 1 vs 1's and wait for a friend, even if you have the alt. advantage. 
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2010, 09:03:32 AM »
the 'Muppets and POTW group hug' crowd

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2010, 09:10:59 AM »
You teach folks how to run from 1 vs 1's and wait for a friend, even if you have the alt. advantage. 

Cry me a river about how you cannot force the engagement. Stop me from killing the bombers you are escorting... oh wait... you dont. If I have the alt advantage... your dead... simple as that... no running involved. Even coalt YOUR dead.  :D
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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2010, 11:50:20 AM »
Cry me a river about how you cannot force the engagement. Stop me from killing the bombers you are escorting... oh wait... you dont. If I have the alt advantage... your dead... simple as that... no running involved. Even coalt YOUR dead.  :D

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Re: What is up with the strats?
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2010, 11:56:14 AM »
Everyone plays their own game, never apologize for how you play it.

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