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Offline Widewing

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #210 on: March 22, 2010, 06:36:01 PM »
some jeeps at the Canadian river
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3NtWN-W0to

8 minutes of video dedicated to two stuck CJs? Comparing a JK to a CJ is like comparing the Starship Enterprise to the Space Shuttle. I've owned both... So, I know.

As to the club link, it seems they spend much of their time drag racing in mud bogs. It's off road, but that's not "wheelin".

Wednesday evening, SpeedTV at 9PM Eastern. Extreme off roading, featuring the Project JK guys running the toughest trails in Moab.


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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #211 on: March 22, 2010, 06:54:22 PM »
i watched your video! i am not impressed with the jeep, the spotter and driver did a good job of building a ramp with the rocks! 

Neither the spotter nor the driver built a ramp. 6" of rock was piled to clear the frame rails. Show me this "ramp"....


Seriously, do you honestly believe that a stock Silverado could even get a wheel on the rock? Name one factory stock vehicle you can buy today that will climb that rock wall, even using the 6" of rock used in the video.


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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #212 on: March 22, 2010, 07:58:29 PM »
Neither the spotter nor the driver built a ramp. 6" of rock was piled to clear the frame rails. Show me this "ramp"....
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Seriously, do you honestly believe that a stock Silverado could even get a wheel on the rock? Name one factory stock vehicle you can buy today that will climb that rock wall, even using the 6" of rock used in the video.


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uumm,,,,,,in that situation, it formed a ramp. it gave him clearance for the frame......just like a ramp is supposed to do.
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #213 on: March 22, 2010, 08:11:30 PM »
here's a couple cool videos of a buddy's grand cheerokee. he beats the livin crap outta this thing. it's an 08. :aok
CAUTION!! SOME LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THESE!! NOT WORK OR KID SAFE!

http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/4/PqJk0PNSxCc

oopsie!! rubicons never get stuck!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/6/TK21otJtE1A

http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/7/tqTNy-EJYlE

this one's pretty dam funny1!
http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/9/zYN4uw6WDmw

there's a couple of other good ones there too.

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #214 on: March 22, 2010, 08:48:41 PM »
Neither the spotter nor the driver built a ramp. 6" of rock was piled to clear the frame rails. Show me this "ramp"....
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Seriously, do you honestly believe that a stock Silverado could even get a wheel on the rock? Name one factory stock vehicle you can buy today that will climb that rock wall, even using the 6" of rock used in the video.


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my daughter has a sport,

she just bought it, we parked it next to my Chevy just to check the clearance, while the approach angle is better in the jeep the lower clearance pretty much canceled it out

the tire on the one in the picture is about 30 inches tall, looks more like a 3 foot ledge (not 5)  with a slope so it isn't strait up, we have many places just like that.
 they only put one side on the rock, the other tires were in the dirt on the far side, they could not have climbed it head on, it must be taken at an angle to get on it at all
if they had taken it on strait forward  out of the dirt there bumper would have never cleared it anymore than mine and there frame would have never cleared without an even larger pile of rocks
 approach angle means nothing if there is not enough clearance to use it
 and yes, i think my Chevy could climb it, easier than that jeep did.
 when your friends come i will come out and we can do some filming if you want, i am off on Sunday we can pick some trails and run a jeep and my chevy up them, get some film and post it if you like. till then we will have to just agree to disagree.
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #215 on: March 22, 2010, 09:23:05 PM »
here's a couple cool videos of a buddy's grand cheerokee. he beats the livin crap outta this thing. it's an 08. :aok
CAUTION!! SOME LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THESE!! NOT WORK OR KID SAFE!

http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/4/PqJk0PNSxCc

oopsie!! rubicons never get stuck!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/6/TK21otJtE1A

http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/7/tqTNy-EJYlE

this one's pretty dam funny1!
http://www.youtube.com/user/2000ViperGTS#p/u/9/zYN4uw6WDmw

there's a couple of other good ones there too.

CAUTION!! SOME LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THESE!! NOT WORK OR KID SAFE!


Nice... I like the mud bath at the end.

The reason you can't find any of new Silverados stuck like that?   


No one wheels them? :D

I would love to see one try that ledge dead stock, it wouldn't have a front bumper after it got pulled off though.

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #216 on: March 22, 2010, 11:28:43 PM »
my daughter has a sport,
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she just bought it,

Some scientists say that brains often skips a generation.... ;)

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we parked it next to my Chevy just to check the clearance, while the approach angle is better in the jeep the lower clearance pretty much canceled it out.

Your daughter's Jeep has 10.3" minimum ground clearance. Your Silverado has 9.1" minimum. Straight from both manufacturer's websites.

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the tire on the one in the picture is about 30 inches tall, looks more like a 3 foot ledge (not 5)  with a slope so it isn't strait up, we have many places just like that.

That's a 32", 255/70-18 Bridgestone Dueler. OEM on the Sahara.

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they only put one side on the rock, the other tires were in the dirt on the far side, they could not have climbed it head on, it must be taken at an angle to get on it at all
if they had taken it on strait forward  out of the dirt there bumper would have never cleared it anymore than mine and there frame would have never cleared without an even larger pile of rocks

Everyone with a brain drives that same line at the Gulches' Bathtub, regardless of what they are driving. This is considered a difficult obstacle. Here's a 4" lifted Cherokee with 35" tires having far more trouble (especially after getting up the rock) than the stock Sahara.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXTZSc_s2TI&feature=related
Here's a guy with specialty rig that has more trouble at the top than did the Sahara.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-NAVsmmL8&NR=1
Then we have a TJ with a huge lift and it doesn't fare very well, in part due to be a bit muddy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DacytjaA0E&feature=related
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approach angle means nothing if there is not enough clearance to use it
 and yes, i think my Chevy could climb it, easier than that jeep did.

I think you are being delusional. You could not get a stock Silverado over that rock without a crane. Why? Because you'll never even get a wheel up on it. Unless you first remove your bumper and valance. Here's a ground-level view of the TnT trail bathtub...



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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #217 on: March 22, 2010, 11:32:32 PM »

Nice... I like the mud bath at the end.

The reason you can't find any of new Silverados stuck like that?   


No one wheels them? :D

I would love to see one try that ledge dead stock, it wouldn't have a front bumper after it got pulled off though.

yea......the dude with the grand cherokee is a buddy. he's worked his bellybutton off for years to get to where he is now......and he can actually afford to beat on that jeep like that.

 it looks to be massive fun, and i'm absolutely :aok certain that he'd never take either of his vipers back htere.........
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #218 on: March 23, 2010, 10:05:15 AM »
yea......the dude with the grand cherokee is a buddy. he's worked his bellybutton off for years to get to where he is now......and he can actually afford to beat on that jeep like that.

 it looks to be massive fun, and i'm absolutely :aok certain that he'd never take either of his vipers back htere.........

Wheeled with a guy who had a 96 or 97 grand, with the little V8, and with a spacer lift and 33s the thing was really capable. Of course it breaks down a lot but those old GCs are older then toejam now...

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #219 on: March 23, 2010, 03:33:29 PM »


The reason you can't find any of new Silverados stuck like that?   
No one wheels them? :D

that's funny,  I have been wheeling them since 1991, along with my other trucks that i have built!
the extended cabs are not good in the rocks but that's about the only place i have ever had any trouble with them
 the short bed regular cabs don't seem to have any trouble, i lift them 6 inches and run 35's on them, no problem at all!
 I broke one of the extended cabs front ends a few times but have never broken any of the regular cabs, i used them on the farm and at the river.
 the newest one i have does have a very low front bumper, i don't like that at all! the 90's had the best bumpers on the front.
they are very capable rigs but they can be broken if you don't know what your doing, just like a jeep!
 I have had my trucks in some pretty tight places and none of them have had to come out on the hook yet.
the first event i ever entered was a southwest four wheel drive meet, they laughed and said sure,, you can run, i took the big trophy home that day, they don't laugh as much any more!
 that was in a 1990 half ton short bed, stock except for the 33's, it was the only stock rig there!

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Some scientists say that brains often skips a generation.... Wink
that's what i said too,,, but she thinks she might need it to get from her house to the hospital were she works,4 nights a week, it is a pretty tough 4 miles of pavement and its her money! it does look awesome setting in her garage tho!!! she about panicked when i aimed it at a big snowbank out behind the store, but then again she doesn't want to get it dirty!!
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #220 on: March 23, 2010, 05:17:02 PM »
That's akin to saying, "let's jump off the roof and see if it hurts." A Silverado is a top notch pickup. It is, however, utterly outclassed by a JK Rubicon off road. Hell, if you saw the video at the beginning of this thread, you would see a stock Wrangler Sahara climb a 5' rock face. Here's the video again..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1nflfygI3M

This is a stock Sahara, no lockers. Street tires. A Rubicon with lockers and KM2s would have made it look easy. Your Silverado.... Zero chance.

I believe that the Jeep Nation off road club out of San Antonio has an event planned for a weekend this summer at the Canadian River Bridge, not far from you. Look them up and ask to join them on their ride. :aok

Also, Project JK has a Texas chapter. I can give you some contacts if you want to go out with them.


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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #221 on: March 24, 2010, 01:01:48 PM »
A yappy back seater like Jester wasn’t popular or fun to fly with, more of an unnecessary distraction than anything else---Puma44

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #222 on: March 24, 2010, 02:26:21 PM »
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #223 on: March 27, 2010, 06:33:35 PM »
Well, my five new 33" Dunlap Mud Terrain tires arrived yesterday. I have to schedule mounting at the local Goodyear store. As soon as the temperature gets a bit warmer, off comes the Freedom top and on goes the TrekTop. This past winter I designed and built a kayak cradle that mounts/clamps onto the roll cage. We're looking forward to getting out on the river this spring. This will be a fun summer....



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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #224 on: March 27, 2010, 08:05:47 PM »
Well, my five new 33" Dunlap Mud Terrain tires arrived yesterday. I have to schedule mounting at the local Goodyear store.
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I just priced a set of the Goodyear Kevlar tires today, kind of pricey but they look like they will last.

Why wait for the warm weather? I couldn't wait to peel off the top anymore and as soon as I did we get snow!





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