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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2010, 02:11:24 AM »
he probably had the stock open rears in it? i never had a scout....only ever had fords n chevys. the only ford i had was my 79 f150, all stock, and she used to get stuck plowing,........but she had open rears at both ends too.

I believe every 4wd vehicle should come with locking diffs, or some kind of limited slip at least.  Otherwise 4x4 is still only 2x4 when it matters most.

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2010, 05:09:37 AM »
he probably had the stock open rears in it? i never had a scout....only ever had fords n chevys. the only ford i had was my 79 f150, all stock, and she used to get stuck plowing,........but she had open rears at both ends too.
Pffft Try an 84 Bronco with lockers front and rear, a 460, a fairbanks C6 and cut fenders to fit 35" BF mud TAs.   :t
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #77 on: March 02, 2010, 06:56:41 AM »
My dads friend had a K5 on 35'' tires(I dont know about anything else) but we were on a trip and took it on the ORV trail by little orleans on the potomac river. Thing was a beast in the mud. Honestly when you said chevy I was thinking trucks because they do make the best pick ups in the world :rock
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #78 on: March 02, 2010, 07:07:09 AM »
Keep in mind that those old trails that are hard to access are called " JEEP trails " for a reason.




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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2010, 07:34:45 AM »
I believe every 4wd vehicle should come with locking diffs, or some kind of limited slip at least.  Otherwise 4x4 is still only 2x4 when it matters most.
One nice feature about my FJ Cruiser is the fact that it has a locking rear differential. It would be nice to add a front locker, but I don't use it for extreme offroad like rock climbing. It's also a daily kid hauler so I have to be careful not to break it on the trail. ;) Gotta love the 21" of wheel articulation though!

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #80 on: March 02, 2010, 10:14:28 AM »
I'll state this to avoid confusion... :headscratch:

The current Jeep Wranglers are the most capable off road vehicles you can by off of a new car showroom anywhere on earth. You can spend a ton of money on whatever you like, and you may equal a stock Rubicon. Of course, the Wranglers have one of the largest aftermarkets of all cars, trucks and SUVs. A 4" lift, 35" Mud/Terrains and some additional armor puts the Jeep beyond 99% of what would try to match it.

How about the Rodeo? You need a 3" lift to run 32" tires. I'm running 33" rubber on a stock heavy duty (same as a Rubicon) suspension (32" is standard, but 33" fit without rubbing at full deflection). Specifically, 285/70-17 Mud/Terrains. I have 11" of ground clearance, likely more than your lifted Rodeo. All Wranglers have BLD (Brake Lock Differentials). While not true lockers, they mimic lockers to the point that Jeep's testing show that BLD will enable a Sport or Sahara to tackle nearly any obstacle that a Rubicon can manage. BLD requires a different driving style, more RPM less reliance on low end torque. Add the Trac-Lok rear axle (as I did) and it only enhances traction as the BLD algorithm is optimized to work best with this axle. Approach, break over and departure angles are the best on any SUV. Rodeos have independent front suspensions. Not a lot of flex and far more prone to damage. Rodeos can be built into capable off road trucks, but you have add a lot of mods and $$ just to keep up with a stock Wrangler JK.

If there was no Jeep, I'd consider a second generation Disco or a Hummer H3. However, the little Suzuki Samurai is probably the next most capable with a minimum amount of dollars in upgrades. Not much power, but you don't need much power if you have the proper gearing.

The guys over at Project-JK organize some of the most challenging off road adventures in the southwest. These guys drive seriously upgraded Jeeps. On one such trip, they were joined by stock Wranglers (2007 and later) JKs. Guess what? The stock JKs were able to negotiate these insane trails, with stock All Terrain tires to boot.

In Britain, they tested a Sahara diesel against a Land Rover Defender 90 (also a diesel). The Defender has been touted as the best off road vehicle on the planet. The D90's price tag was nearly double that of the Jeep. Test results.... The Sahara easily matched the D90 off road, and was vastly superior on the road. It would have been no contest at all if the Brits had tested a Rubicon... I don't believe Rubicons are sold in Europe.

How about some really well made, eye popping videos from Project-JK?

The Bullfrog Jeep trail.. Rated "difficult". Watch the stock Wrangler hanging in there with much modified JKs.
http://www.youtube.com/user/wayalife#p/a/f/1/aLERd3D4HCo

More great Project-JK videos... Should start with part 2 of the Easter Moab run...
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You are right on the JK Rubi being the best stock off road vehicle money can buy. Nothing beats solid axles and the JK really fixed most of the TJs flaws. They are so nice they are almost not jeeps.

My brother in Laws, JK Rubi stock is better off road then my 05 Rubi with 33 and a 2 inch lift.

Anyone who says they out wheel a jeep in anything with independent front suspension is talking out their rear end.   Or only wheeling Mall parking lots.


And basing your opinion of jeeps on their 90s  sqaure headlight wragler when its two generations from the current model is a little silly considering just how good the modern jeeps are. Hell a JK softop at 70 on the freeway is quiet enough to have a normal conversation in.

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #81 on: March 02, 2010, 10:15:12 AM »
I guess the neatest 4WD I had is one I built. A 1975 Vega Stationwagon Estate.

Custom frame and running gear from a 75 GMC Jimmy. Custom mounts and fuel tank along with 10 inch pipe front bumper and two 3 inch rear bumpers.

I have some pics around here somewhere. Ran 38.5 monster mudders on it on 12" x 15" rims.
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2010, 10:28:57 AM »
I have a photo of my JEEP since i rescued it from near death. After an enormous amount of sanding, a coat of primer, and a quick camo paint job i am now ready to install the new suspension and military NDCC tires. I cannot wait for warm weather to take the top off this thing. May 8th is national go topless day sponsored by Allthingsjeep.com

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2010, 10:43:07 AM »
Low End Torque = Less chance of breakage
Higher RPM's = More chance of breakage

BTW, a Rodeo on pucks isn't all that bad.   At least that person will be wheeling.   
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2010, 01:28:51 PM »
Pffft Try an 84 Bronco with lockers front and rear, a 460, a fairbanks C6 and cut fenders to fit 35" BF mud TAs.   :t

i've never really cared for broncos......'cept for those old square bodied ones......
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2010, 01:29:16 PM »
I have a photo of my JEEP since i rescued it from near death. After an enormous amount of sanding, a coat of primer, and a quick camo paint job i am now ready to install the new suspension and military NDCC tires. I cannot wait for warm weather to take the top off this thing. May 8th is national go topless day sponsored by Allthingsjeep.com

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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2010, 01:29:44 PM »
I guess the neatest 4WD I had is one I built. A 1975 Vega Stationwagon Estate.

Custom frame and running gear from a 75 GMC Jimmy. Custom mounts and fuel tank along with 10 inch pipe front bumper and two 3 inch rear bumpers.

I have some pics around here somewhere. Ran 38.5 monster mudders on it on 12" x 15" rims.

there used to be a 71 dodge challenger running around here. convertible.
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2010, 04:14:24 PM »
i've never really cared for broncos......'cept for those old square bodied ones......
Trust me you would of liked mine. On road stock GT's would pull a fender on the 1/4 and that's it. :devil
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2010, 05:53:19 PM »
The jeep next door has a cute emblem on it "H2 Recovery Team" :)
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Re: Ain't nothin like a Jeep
« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2010, 01:01:23 PM »
Read in the paper, Hummer will be discontinued  2011.  Jeep wins again! :D I'm sorry to all you jeep haters. I do laugh at the Yellow H2's parked at the grocery store. :rolleyes: Nothing says look at me im an idiot more than a yellow hummer parked at a grocery store IMO.

Ripsnort, your Cruiser looks cute! I'd be more than happy to pull you out of the ditch if needed! :t
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