Ain't nothin like a Jeep

[Masherbrum]

This is just getting stupid. You have no idea what my experience is.

Why don't you go over to an offroad forum like pirate4x4 and post some of your opinions, see what kind of responses you get.

Go tell people who have decades of fabrication and offroad experience that their H1's are inadequate because they have IFS. Or that the penz is not a good offroader because the parts are expensive.  

Pirate4x4.com is nothing but loud mouthed, kindergartners who thinks it's cool to cuss and swear on every third word.   Now all of this makes sense.    

.....and you know what my experience is? (No, you don't.  Which negates your back pedal)  But please keep misquoting folks, you obviously have the attention span of my 8 year old son.   Whether it is Todd, VonMessa, WideWing, myself, etc., you just have shoddy inter-personal comprehension skills.   Learn comprehension, before you attempt to flame others for words they never said and continue to embarrass yourself.

[RichardDarkwood]

  Or that the penz is not a good offroader because the parts are rare and expensive. I'd love to see the replies you get. 

I thought he was just saying that cost issues make it a issues, not that the vehicle sucked.

I am saying that it sucks for all the reasons Vonmessa stated I am just a ol'school buy american type kind of guy though.

As far as affordability in a vehicle, my 65 Kaiser parts cost way more than some of the parts your listing just because of the age. But the beauty of owning a JEEP is that I can take parts off of later model and swap into mine. Jeep is just the most versatile off road vehicle IMHO. Keep in mind I am only claiming the pre-1976 Jeeps so I don't want anyone confusing me with someone who drives a yuppy Jeep, because I am driving your grand daddy'd Jeep LMAO my oil pan and the skid plate attached to it probably weigh more than that toyota's engine LMAO I have never seen a 4 cylinder with a oil pan drain plug bolt that damn big before, it's like a size 3/4 or 7/8.


In the end we all like the same thing which is wheeling and having fun with friends no matter what we drive.


Todd

[AKHog]

I have the experience to back up my claims. So far your experience is 'rally school', and you are going to sit there and tell me a vehicle "isn't worth the trouble" becuase it has IFS. That car you drove in rally school no doubt had IFS. 

Edit: Never mind, it's not worth it. Keep the rubber side down.

 

[VonMessa]

Still sticking to my guns ( and the OP's)

OP didn't say "Ain't nothin BETTER than a Jeep"

He said "Ain't nothing LIKE a Jeep"

Simple Engrish


Original SUV. 

Everyone else is just playing catch-up and improving on an Idea

[Masherbrum]

I have the experience to back up my claims. So far your experience is 'rally school', and you are going to sit there and tell me a vehicle "isn't worth the trouble" becuase it has IFS. That car you drove in rally school no doubt had IFS. 

Edit: Never mind, it's not worth it. Keep the rubber side down.

 

It didn't, game over man, game over.   I enjoyed watching you try to play the "Wheeling King".   

[WWhiskey]

if i haven't learned anything else in the30 plus years i have been Wheeling,,, i have learned that no matter what it is they drive, theirs, is the best there ever was according to them, even while they are on my hook!
i have been wheeling IFS since 1990, along with strait axle trucks, both have their place, surprisingly in deep pit mud bogging, not 6 inch mud holes, the IFS will eat up the strait axles, and the fastest of them have both ends set up that way, but it is expensive to build them up till they can handle 700 or more horsepower.  I know of one being built right now that is all IFS and will have a 600 horsepower turbine in it, with 46 inch tractor tires on it! i am ready to see it run.

[AKHog]

It didn't, game over man, game over.   I enjoyed watching you try to play the "Wheeling King".  

So what rally car were you driving? What school?

I can't think of any rally car that has a solid front axle.

[Widewing]

If you haven't been pulled out by someone, at some point, you haven't been wheeling hard enough   

Never been pulled out per se.... Did need help in rolling the CJ-5 upright again. 


My regards,

Widewing

[AKHog]

Never been pulled out per se.... Did need help in rolling the CJ-5 upright again. 

Closest I've been to flipping a crawler was my CJ-5, that wheelbase is short short short.

BTW I'm predicting now that Masherbrum either doesn't post in this thread again or comes up with some lame excuse as to why he can't remember what car he drove or something like that. Sucks when you get caught in a lie, .

Otherwise I'm really looking forward to hearing what 'rally school' teaches driving in a solid axle car!

[Masherbrum]

Closest I've been to flipping a crawler was my CJ-5, that wheelbase is short short short.

BTW I'm predicting now that Masherbrum either doesn't post in this thread again or comes up with some lame excuse as to why he can't remember what car he drove or something like that. Sucks when you get caught in a lie, .

Otherwise I'm really looking forward to hearing what 'rally school' teaches driving in a solid axle car!

Caught in what lie?    You've done nothing but spew insults.

Jeep Cherokee btw.   I also used one of the schools old Audi 4000's for a couple hours.   3.5 out of the 4 days was spent beating the hell out of their XJ (exceeded 85mph many times, approaching 100+ a few times).    Team O'Neil New Hampshire.   It was a Xmas present from my parents in 1994.

You couldn't predict a snowstorm for Alaska in January.   

[ebfd11]

I still prefer the H1 hummer ...W00T

[VonMessa]

Never been pulled out per se.... Did need help in rolling the CJ-5 upright again.  


My regards,

Widewing

Close enough  

Should've said "If you have ever needed assistance getting back on the trail....

[Masherbrum]

However, since trading my CJ7 for a lifted ZJ, my chances of getting stuck increase slightly.   But I embrace the challenge. 

[Ripsnort]

if you're gonna take ANYTHING off road, a solid front axle is the only way to go.

The US Army disagrees. The Humvee is IFS. 

[Ripsnort]

Incidently, this comparison of Jeep Wranglers and FJ Cruisers is rediculous. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Now, an FJ-40 vs a Wrangler is an apples to apples comparison.

The Jeep Liberty vs FJ Cruiser is an apples to apples comparison.

Good comparison of all 4 in this class here:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/112_0604_midsize_suv_comparison/conclusion.html