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Offline PFactorDave

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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2010, 11:46:47 PM »
No at 8000 and standard pressure everything is fine

So, my idea of standar commercial pressure of between 7 and 8k is correct?  Yes?

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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2010, 12:00:31 AM »
Lester, I thought I recognized your name from the targetware boards. I dl'd RS a while back and spent some time reading the boards. Welcome! Btw, stiglr acts the same on this board as he does over ther lol
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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2010, 02:55:15 PM »
So, my idea of standar commercial pressure of between 7 and 8k is correct?  Yes?

FAA Regulations say cabin altitude may not exceed 8000 but most cabin pressures are 5500-6900 I believe. The FAA holds that exceeding 9800 feet requires artificially mantained cabin pressure to avoid hypoxia or altitude sickness (alkalosis) or decompression sickness (gas embolisms) or barotrauma (aerotitus). Primarily the cabin crew or automated devices must maintain a pressure differential that does not exceed 8.6 psi.

EDIT: There is way to get around altitude certification requirements but...
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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2010, 05:01:56 PM »
No at 8000 and standard pressure everything is fine but proceeding above that and concentrating on any task takes energy and talking takes up more energy (plus the air). If you spend any time in a thermal/wave/ridge (especially with other aircraft around) at 11000 you will quickly learn what Im talking about and push it on up to 15000 and it all becomes very obvious. Also you have to remember that atmospheric pressure is not constant and even as low as 8000 pressure can be so low that it feels as if you are much higher. Of course when WWI is released it will probably be the same as AHII and pressure will be constant.

 Am I correct in reading that you said that AHII has a constant air pressure from sea level to whatever altitude?

 Doesn't this make for some uberness of planes flown NA?  I mean even creaky old Fighter Squadron has engine power reduction with altitude.  Try chasing the Zepp in the Furious ship launced Sopwith Pup mission at over 15,000 feet up.   You have to stair step and manage your airspeed to climb rate just to catch it.

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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2010, 09:03:05 PM »
MMMM SPADS.




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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2010, 10:12:43 PM »
Am I correct in reading that you said that AHII has a constant air pressure from sea level to whatever altitude?

 Doesn't this make for some uberness of planes flown NA?  I mean even creaky old Fighter Squadron has engine power reduction with altitude.  Try chasing the Zepp in the Furious ship launced Sopwith Pup mission at over 15,000 feet up.   You have to stair step and manage your airspeed to climb rate just to catch it.

No you misinterpreted. The pressure at sea level in AH is a constant. If pressure did not change with altitude then the engines would perform loads better at high altitude than they do at sea level (because of boosting in whatever fashion engines are boosted). In real life the 'standard atmospheric pressure' only happens infrequently which is why we have climate change (precipitation and fog and thin air and thick air etc etc). Something you should be happy you dont see is 'barometric pressure inversions' and a few other nasty environments from real life... not that it would make too much difference since most people in AH dont even know they have instruments.

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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2010, 10:57:31 PM »
Am I correct in reading that you said that AHII has a constant air pressure from sea level to whatever altitude?
No, he meant that AH doesn't have high pressure zones and low pressure zones so the air pressure at a given altitude is always the same at that altitude.  It does change, following standard pressures, as altitude changes though.  That is why, for example, the Ki-84 sucks at 25000ft but the Spitfire Mk IX is great at 25000ft, an inversion of their standing at sea level.
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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2010, 06:02:17 AM »
MMMM SPADS.

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Re: The SPAD, the 51 of its era...
« Reply #53 on: February 26, 2010, 02:07:31 PM »

 Frankly I hope there's enough interest in two seaters and the early war planes that your sim gets a well rounded representation of the planes used during the years they were present.  Most of the flights over the front were doing barrage fire spotting and observation/ bombing.  Call me strange, but I'd get a bigger thrill out of successfully fending off an Alby DII attack in a BE2c while on a obs mission and making it home by the skin of my teeth, than just the general furball between Spads and Fokker DVII's.  Not that there's anything wrong with furballs.

 Just sayin'..... :joystick: