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Offline Zuum

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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2010, 06:55:05 PM »
Absolutely, no facts.
Just feelings :rofl :rofl :rofl
GEtting in to AH community is surrounded by feelings..... :x

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« Last Edit: February 27, 2010, 07:17:37 PM by Zuum »
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Offline TnDep

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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2010, 02:50:59 AM »
The 30mm is amazingly huge and devastating 1 to 2 hits should be the end of an airplane check out these vids.  Almost like bombs going off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqu8hmPHd0&feature=related - A10 nice vid show's rounds up close and them killing tanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiPMQik_P4 - guy should have jumped off the bridge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIdRwQ5G97s - this one look at the shells hitting the ground and how big they are
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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2010, 12:35:27 PM »
The 30mm is amazingly huge and devastating 1 to 2 hits should be the end of an airplane check out these vids.  Almost like bombs going off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqu8hmPHd0&feature=related - A10 nice vid show's rounds up close and them killing tanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiPMQik_P4 - guy should have jumped off the bridge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIdRwQ5G97s - this one look at the shells hitting the ground and how big they are

The mk108 cannon of WW2 fired a much different round than modern varients.
The mk108 round was a 90mm case.

The GAU-8 Avenger cannon (A-10) fires a 173mm case round....almost twice as long. (3500 ft/s)

The mk108 round was a low velocity round (1770 ft/s). If you look at one the case is shorter than the projectile...it almost looks like a rifle grenade of today. THe GAU-8 round has 3500 ft/s.

BUT....I agree that there "could" be a modeling issue..perhaps having to do with "hit boxes" in the AH damage model.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MK_108_cannon
"Testing verified that the autocannon was well-suited to this role, requiring on average just four hits with high-explosive ammunition to bring down a heavy bomber such as a B-17 Flying Fortress or B-24 Liberator and a single hit to down a fighter. In comparison, the otherwise excellent 20 mm MG 151/20 required an average of 25 hits to down a B-17."
« Last Edit: March 09, 2010, 12:38:43 PM by Agent360 »

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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2010, 04:21:51 PM »
rgr Agent the velocity well definently make a differnence, wasn't really paying attention to the details  :D you make a very valid point
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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2010, 05:49:17 PM »
Absolutely, no facts.
Just feelings :rofl :rofl :rofl
GEtting in to AH community is surrounded by feelings..... :x

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Oder...zum wenigsten, Ich treibe so.
Und, lache ueber mich!
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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 09:15:43 AM »
The sabotage was very risky business at that time. Some slaves could do that, some couldnt.
That was not the issue.
Anyway, the 1st thread is still here.

Anything other than american ammunition is not modeled properly by ballistic point of view.

I understand that most "players" are american. I understand that most of incomes of HTC are based by americans...
I understand that entertainment is entertainment. Still, You have a choice.

I dont understand that kind of a fanatic patriotism which seems to be a standard in AH-base.
HTC is washing the history clean.

The germans had their best inventions...They were so good that americans had to rush for them at the end of the 2nd WW.
Unluckily, americans didnt won the race. Russians sent the 1st man in space.

Is this comment understood as a provocation?
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Is this comment understood as a provocation?

Not only a provocation but also insulting and pure bs.

I read this thread, but with out an ah film you have no idea what is really happening in that shot. The reason people support us, is that when some post a reall issue, with real information, and not some hopeless childlike whine like this post we look into it.

But with statements like yours above, you loose all credibility, and hence anything you state about bugs stats being view by us as just another whine.

All this could have been resolved in about 10 min if you would have or will post a ah film.

And also you post this in the General forum instead of the bug forum, again showing you are not really interested in solving an issue, in which case you would post it in the bug forum along with an ah film.

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« Last Edit: March 10, 2010, 09:19:26 AM by hitech »

Offline Zuum

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Re: 30mm rubber projectiles...
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 12:17:30 PM »
Dear Hitech... the AH-film, you ment, is as downloadable file in the 1st message. Go and get it. Many others have done that. There You can see the issue...
 :salute
Otherwise...those smileys shoud tell something. Donīt get it too serious :D
« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 12:21:22 PM by Zuum »
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