the P-47

[Buzzbait]

S!

D11 should accelerate, climb and sustain turn MUCH better.

[Mark Luper]

I am a dyed in the wool JugWhiner  . The most fun I ever had in here was with the D-11 before it was porked. Now I thought that all that was going to be changed was the 300lb weight deficit (sp?). That didn't worry me too much, 300lbs is a very small percentage of 13000 or so. Ammo loadout varies more than that or about that depending on choice. Evidently more got changed than just the wieght though.

What I find disheartening is the fact that people that don't really care to fly it much, and there are those that fly it but not consistently, had to make a point to whine about it till it ruined the fun of those that did fly it regularly.

I am back to the D-25 and it handles much better than the D-11 now and that shouldn't be. The D-11 was lighter and aerodynamicaly more stable and should be the better low alt flyer.

I hope all you luftwhiners out there got your wish. Chritmas came early this year didn't it? It's not like it was the dominating ac out there or one that couldn't be dispatched fairly easily with a properly flown luftwhinermobile.

[Gtoraii]

Vermillion
 The -1 Corsair did not have the spoiler on the right wing like all later Corsairs. The spoiler was added to make sure the wings stall at the same time. Stall a -1 and it rolls over on its back.

This is the way it should be, the later corsairs haven’t picked this up as far as I can tell.

Te term ensign eliminator for the F4U corsair came from the -1 model.

[Daff]

Well, just did a quick offline test and the D-11 stalls at 100mph and the D-30 and 105mph. (Clean, 25% fuel, 1000feet)

Daff

[Pyro]

The only thing that changed was the basic weight of the plane.  The exact weight change is (425-267)*8*0.31.  Those numbers represent the standard ammo load versus the normal load.  Previously, normal gross weight was calculated with an overload condition.

[Urchin]

So if they loaded the small ammo loadout, they should not notice any change in performance from the high ammo loadout P-47d11 in version 1.07?

[Mark Luper]

My apologies Pyro, I thought you all had done more than the weight thingy. Gonna have to try it with 6*267...will get 165lbs of the 392 back   .

8*425 = 3400 rnds = 1054lbs
8*267 = 2136 rnds = 662lbs
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                                       392lbs

So if you were flying with 3400 rnds before and started using 2136 rnds then you would be back at the weight it was before. If you were flying with 2136 rounds (like I was) then you can only lighten it by about 165lbs going to 6 guns with 267 rnds per gun.

   

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: Mark Luper ]

[Buzzbait]

S!

Still don't have the Paddle blade in this plane when 90% of its combat time was flown with it.

[-ammo-]

pyro, would it be possible to implement the good prop on this beautiful AC? I put up some pretty good evidence in a prior post about thsi subject, as did Buzz.

[Kodiak2]

Did the P-47 have a REALLY crappy six view in real life as it does in AH?  I tried flying it some tonight and you are right ammo, it likes to "wallow".  Not at all what I expected and I really cannot handle that six view.

[Staga]

Guess there was a reason why they started to use bubble-canopy.

[-ammo-]

actually yes the view wasnt that great before the D25 and the bubble canopy arrived. The AH view is probably much better than what the Fighter pilots in WW2 enjoyed

But yes, i dont think the FM for the D11 is right.

[crutch]

The six view on the razorback P47s is absolutly great for teaching you to fly paranoid - keep checking your six becase he IS back there.

Most guys overlook the fact that the Jug's biggest blind area is its belly, especially in a climb.

Fly with a wingman and fly smart.