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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #90 on: March 07, 2010, 05:29:03 PM »
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« Reply #91 on: March 07, 2010, 07:18:33 PM »
Good try, but since those organizations don't have any paying customers your answer doesn't fit the question.
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #92 on: March 07, 2010, 07:23:09 PM »
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« Reply #93 on: March 07, 2010, 07:34:46 PM »
This  thread is about silent hunter 5 anyway, IMO I don't think that having to connect to the internet to play the game is fair. This is they want it to be to protect their product, so be it.
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« Reply #94 on: March 07, 2010, 07:39:01 PM »
Goodwill has no paying customers?
http://locator.goodwill.org/?gclid=CPSXw6f-p6ACFQUMDQodogLSZg

Not in this context no. The stuff they sell are not really their product, it is donated by the public. The services they offer are free, so everyone can afford them.
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« Reply #95 on: March 07, 2010, 09:15:00 PM »
Beauty of a free economy.

By the way, can you name a company that make considerations for people who can't afford their product/services?
Diehard you said name a company. I did. Salvation Army helps people. If you give stuff to Goodwill is it technically yours anymore? If Goodwill is selling other peoples stuff do they give the money back to the people that gave it to them since it is not technically Goodwill's?
Does Goodwill only sell things that are given to them?

You can answer die hard but I won't reply.                Your a attorney huh? Good for you.Like to argue? :D Like to win?  :D
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #96 on: March 07, 2010, 10:25:47 PM »
I said "name a company that make considerations for people who can't afford their product/services."

Answer the whole question.

If everyone can afford their services there is no consideration for people who can't afford it, because they don't exist.
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #97 on: March 08, 2010, 06:54:47 AM »
1. Unlike other DRM schemes, it works.

Yeah it might work at hampering piracy.  It will also cause their PC sales to suffer from people not buying any Ubi games.  Since most people don't like to be treated like a criminal when they haven't/didn't do anything wrong.  I was looking at some of the future games that they will be putting out and some of the appeal to me.  However if this DRM stays in place they will never be able to pry my wallet open for it.  I refuse to be treated like a would-be-pirate.

While RoF has a similar DRM to this, it works for them since it is a Niche product that I feel needs all their profits.  They have even patched out the 100% online requirement either because they feel it has been long enough or they have gotten their money out of it.  Ubisoft's DRM is going to be carried on all of their games from here on out.  Their games are much more mainstream than NeoQB's which will make the hackers come out of the wood work to attempt to crack it.

I honestly don't like they fact that you pay full price for a game, that when you boil it down, isn't even really a full complete game smacks me a slightly foolish.  It tells the publishers that they can do what they like and your consumers will take it like some lemming.  There is a thread on ubi's own forums that is 47 pages long at last count is full of people saying that they have lost their money.  There are also a number of first time posters the have signed up for the forum to voice their concers/complaints.  When you take that along with the posts all over other forums dedicated to gaming, including the SubSim boards which are dedicated to submarine sims, it doesn't bode well for ubi.  People are also leaving warnings on the individual game pages about the DRM scheme, which is make some people both cancel their preorders and not preorder. 

Personally I don't really have a dog in this fight.  I'm not able to buy games like I used to and it's looking like BF:BC2 will be my only purchase for a while.
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #98 on: March 08, 2010, 09:10:48 AM »
Oh god I can't believe we have let this thread get to 7 pages long. Die Hard is right and wrong on both counts. We are all right and wrong as well. Ubisoft fudged us all with this DRM and they don't care. Its just one more way to eliminate the simulation market from viability and make it so we all end up playing the squeaker games and doing what they want us to do.

For the record Die Hard...I can afford just about anything that I want/need...I don't live in a rural area but when I go to my hunting area and am sitting around at night after the kids are asleep and am hanging out waiting on sleep to come I play SH on my laptop; when I travel all over the world and am sitting in airports in small out of the way areas with ZERO cell phone service or am in a building/area with ZERO wifi or cell phone service...sometimes in the middle of NYC, Chicago, etc...I may want to play or continue the mission in the campaign I am on. However in this current incarnation it doesn't work that way for me. I am not going to spend money on it; however I am going to make my voice heard by spending my money in a different way instead of funding their ridiculous DRM.

IF they made this a one time check then I might be all over it...otherwise its my money and I will spend it my way.
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #99 on: March 08, 2010, 11:28:11 AM »
Speaking of inconvenience.
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« Reply #100 on: March 08, 2010, 11:40:15 AM »
Way to go Ubisoft.  That is one of the funniest things I have read in a while.  Doesn't surprise me in the least however.
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« Reply #101 on: March 08, 2010, 12:06:15 PM »
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« Reply #102 on: March 08, 2010, 02:37:32 PM »
lol here is a conspiracy theory for you:
Hackers attacked the Ubisoft servers to embarrass Ubi and cause an uproar that will end up in them patching all games to remove this online DRM. Then the hackers can remove the rest of it at their leisure...

I can't say I am sad for Ubisoft  :devil
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #103 on: March 08, 2010, 07:14:23 PM »
Not a conspiracy, the auth servers were DOS'ed ;)

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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2010, 01:25:49 AM »
I personally think the BS with copyright and DRM on products you legally buy (especially with music/media that you physically "own" ie. an actual CD, DVD, Blu-Ray etc) is complete rubbish, but if you knowingly buy software that has some type of DRM, internet based or not, you really don't have anything to complain about.

Attacking the UBI servers to prove a point or to force UBI to discontinue its use of this DRM is not only retarded, but I would think would only reinforce UBI's views about its need. Surely anyone who owns these games but can't log in to play them should be blaming the pirates, not the company

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