Can we fix this?

[321BAR]

Ok i know that alot of people are gonna shoot this down and say im a bad pilot or whatever *cough* not true *cough* but i usually fly the a6m5b and i have BREWSTERS out climbing me, out turning me, and out gunning me... in real life wasnt the brewster a freaking rock with a propellor and 50cal mgs? why is my 20eny plane losing in one on ones vs 40 eny planes? ive used every maneuver a zeke can fly and i never win in a fight vs one... i say we need a fixxxxx

[gyrene81]

You haven't seen me fly that Brewster...easy kill for ya.  

If you want frustration...how about having a Brewster out climb a 109G6 with E advantage?

[AWwrgwy]

It's you.

I'd like to hear more of your real-life Brewster flying experience.

Technically, we don't have the Brewster.


wrongway

[Saxman]

Ok i know that alot of people are gonna shoot this down and say im a bad pilot or whatever *cough* not true *cough* but i usually fly the a6m5b and i have BREWSTERS out climbing me, out turning me, and out gunning me... in real life wasnt the brewster a freaking rock with a propellor and 50cal mgs? why is my 20eny plane losing in one on ones vs 40 eny planes? ive used every maneuver a zeke can fly and i never win in a fight vs one... i say we need a fixxxxx

BAR,

Keep in mind we don't HAVE the overweight and underpowered F2A-3 and B-339E. We have the stripped-down B-239 sent to the Finns that removed a LOT of the extra weight the Navy and British tossed on. The 239 and Dutch B-339 (NOTE: B-339, NOT B-339E) were much lighter, and performed much better. In fact the Dutch versions accounted for themselves VERY well against the Zero. They were just overwhelmed by sheer weight of numbers.

No, I WILL agree this means the 239 isn't exactly an appropriate substitute for the F2A-3 and 339E in PTO scenarios. I wouldn't mind seeing HTC go back and add the F2A-3 since it WOULD essentially be a different aircraft.

[321BAR]

alright haha i went through 5 sites to get info and you just answered my question. but yes. if we have the 239 at 40eny i think we need the crappy 339 and F2A-3 also because i dont like the idea that an outdated aircraft is decimating me in flight. especially when im in the zeke. htc bumped up the 190A models from 40eny so maybe they can do that also to the 239? or is it already? along with the fact that only a limited amount of 239 and 339s were manufactured. 70 were sent to the Dutch East Indies. ill learn to fly against them but if there were only 70-80 339 models in the east indies then why is the 239 even IN here? yes approx 60 239 were sent to finland too. but thats 130 brewster 239-339s counted. there werent much more in service. out of the VMF-221 at midway only 20 F2A-3 models were flown and were too heavy to fight zeros. the British Commonwealth took the 339E crap models that were even worse than that of the F2A-2s

[The Fugitive]

LOL!!! you don't like getting beat by a crappy 40 ENY plane !!!!

Here's a tip, learn to fly better ! Any plane can be beat, it's more the pilot than the plane.

[uptown]

Yeah iwas going to say just keep at it and you'll start to figure out how to fight them best. Try taking 25% and DTs for example. I'd think a zero light on fuel would be very hard to out turn.

[Motherland]

I used to think there was something wrong with the B 239 until I read Juutilainen's vivid descriptions of out turning I153's (BIPLANES) 10 feet off of the ground in the thing. It really must have been a fantastic aircraft.

[AirFlyer]

Generally speaking the A6M5b should be able to win against the Brew IMO. Granted it does whittle down to the pilot at times and with the right one in the seat they'll show you what's up. WMaker comes to mind, god his Brewster scares me.

[stodd]

i dont like the idea that an outdated aircraft is decimating me in flight.

This happens to me all the time. 

[gpwurzel]

Dont see what the problem is - if you get into a bad sit, level out and run away, even a spit V can do that with ease. You can also take it into a circular climb if you have enough e, above 4k or so it gets considerably slower and cant stay with ya.

Wurzel

[321BAR]

Yeah iwas going to say just keep at it and you'll start to figure out how to fight them best. Try taking 25% and DTs for example. I'd think a zero light on fuel would be very hard to out turn.

tried it

Generally speaking the A6M5b should be able to win against the Brew IMO. Granted it does whittle down to the pilot at times and with the right one in the seat they'll show you what's up. WMaker comes to mind, god his Brewster scares me.

brewsters the only aircraft i have problems fighting... i even kill ponies now and then when they mess up (or if i got alt)

Dont see what the problem is - if you get into a bad sit, level out and run away, even a spit V can do that with ease. You can also take it into a circular climb if you have enough e, above 4k or so it gets considerably slower and cant stay with ya.

Wurzel

the zero cant out run a spit V or if it does its really close, and the brewster still keeps with me.........

[Motherland]

The A6M5b is actually a good 10-20mph faster than the B 239 at all altitudes, the Brewster just has superb E retention. You'll out run it in the long run, though.

[Bronk]

tried it brewsters the only aircraft i have problems fighting... i even kill ponies now and then when they mess up (or if i got alt)

See you're  used to being the tightest turning ac.  Don't turn fight the brew that is it's bread and butter.  I think the A6M2 and hurri MkI are the only 2 fighters that can out turn it.

[321BAR]

ok thank you for the info guys. ill keep both points in mind.