Aircraft Polling Results

[Guppy35]

cough, betty bomber fills a bigger hole than Beaufighter and He-111 combined

LOL.  Not even close.....

[PJ_Godzilla]

hangar queens over crates that would actually be used on a near daily basis. . . of course the queens win.

Meaning boof, 410, Yak-3, G.55, right?

The real problem is not the distribution of aircraft, the real problem is the paucity of aircraft. A rising tide lifts all boats. This allocation problem would be a non-issue if they were bangin' 'em out a little quicker. Think about it: if we were getting a new WWII bird every month and had a known deployment schedule, it'd be a hell of a lot easier to be patient.


I've said it before: I'd love for HTC to lift the veil a bit on AC development, what it entails, and what's in the works. It seems painfully slow, at least when we're a bunch of mushrooms (in the dark and being fed the equivalent of soup from sources of varying levels of cred).

[Motherland]

Just curious, this has nothing to do with how I feel about the aircraft, but as far as utilitarian MA use goes, why would people pick the Beaufighter over the Bf 110G or Mosquito, or the G.55 over the Bf 109G-14, K-4, Yak 9U etc. etc. etc.?
These are still mid war aircraft.

[oakranger]

Just curious, this has nothing to do with how I feel about the aircraft, but as far as utilitarian MA use goes, why would people pick the Beaufighter over the Bf 110G or Mosquito, or the G.55 over the Bf 109G-14, K-4, Yak 9U etc. etc. etc.?
These are still mid war aircraft.

Same reason why i fly a P-47D-25 in late war and fight all them AC.  personal preference i guess. 

[Boozeman]

Just curious, this has nothing to do with how I feel about the aircraft, but as far as utilitarian MA use goes, why would people pick the Beaufighter over the Bf 110G or Mosquito, or the G.55 over the Bf 109G-14, K-4, Yak 9U etc. etc. etc.?
These are still mid war aircraft.

Well, at least the G.55 is a damn sexy plane compared to the butt-ugly 109s and Yaks.   

[Motherland]

Same reason why i fly a P-47D-25 in late war and fight all them AC.  personal preference i guess. 

Well if I'm given the need to fly a bomber I'll take up the Ju 88 or when it comes out the He 111. It's kind of pointless to bring people who fly aircraft for reasons other than pure performance into the equation when you're talking about MA use.

[skribetm]

PLEASE just fix the biggest omissions in the game, planes that were produced in LARGE numbers but arent even in-game up to now.

Ki-43
He-111
G4M2

any other planes that numbered 1,000+ and absolutely needed for scenarios.
i dont subscribe for the MA, it has lost its appeal a looong time ago. hording and land-grabbing ruined it all, might as well play in the DA if i wanted to get horded.
i live for scenarios.

[Motherland]

PLEASE just fix the biggest omissions in the game, planes that were produced in LARGE numbers but arent even in-game up to now.

Ki-43
He-111
G4M2

any other planes that numbered 1,000+ and absolutely needed for scenarios.
i dont subscribe for the MA, it has lost its appeal a looong time ago. hording and land-grabbing ruined it all, might as well play in the DA if i wanted to get horded.
i live for scenarios.

[whiteman]

HE-111 will work for reasons stated above, would love to see the KI-43 

+1

[Karnak]

wrong, the ju88 is too fast, it can outrun a spit1 and a hurrie1. so the HE 111, which is slower than a ju88, is strongly needed for BoB, which is allways a classic and great scenario

The He111 is slightly slower than the Ju88A-4.  Don't exaggerate the difference.

The only way to make a BoB scenario work is to make the bomber pilots fly at cruise settings.  Anything else and it doesn't matter if they are in Ju88s, He111s or Do17s.

FYI, the JU88 is not faster than either the Hurri I or Spit I.

[Krusty]

Cruising speed for a He-111P (which made up half the He-111s at the beginning of the war, the other half being early 111Hs) with bombload was 190mph at FTH of 5000m. The H-1 through H-3 were almost identical to the He-111P, but instead of DB engines they had Jumo 211A-3 engines of equivelant horsepower.

You might have a point if you consider post-BOB He-111H models (usually H-6 and later, H-11s+) as far as performance with the Ju-88, but these had later Jumo211D and D-1 and 211F-2 engines in them.

Then again, our Ju-88 is also post-BOB, with too much horsepower, wing area, and defensive guns, to be comparable to what the BOB had in it (and even then, it was a small minority in the LW bomber fleet in the BOB)

[Guppy35]

PLEASE just fix the biggest omissions in the game, planes that were produced in LARGE numbers but arent even in-game up to now.

Ki-43
He-111
G4M2

any other planes that numbered 1,000+ and absolutely needed for scenarios.
i dont subscribe for the MA, it has lost its appeal a looong time ago. hording and land-grabbing ruined it all, might as well play in the DA if i wanted to get horded.
i live for scenarios.

What part of the 1940-45, ETO, MTO, CBI. PTO, 5000+ production run Beaufighter aren't I being clear on?

[skribetm]

What part of the 1940-45, ETO, MTO, CBI. PTO, 5000+ production run Beaufighter aren't I being clear on?

He-111
Ki-43
Boof
G4M2

 

did i miss any more? 

[Karnak]

He-111
Ki-43
Boof
G4M2

 

did i miss any more?  

Many, many more.  Here is a list of Japanese aircraft with production totals above 1000 that are not in the game:

Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
Ki-21 "Sally" 2064 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-48 "Lily" 1997 built
Ki-46 "Dinah" 1746 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-27 "Nate" 1329 built
B6N "Jill" 1268 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
P1Y1 "Frances" 1098 built
G3M "Nell" 1048 built
N1K1-J "George" 1007 built


There are a great many aircraft from other nations as well that have production totals well over 1000.  Some examples:

Wellington 11464 built
Pe-2 11400 built
SB2C Helldiver 7140 built
SB-2 6656 built
He111 6508 built
LaGG-3 6258 built
Halifax 6176 built
Beaufighter 5928 built
Il-4 5256 built
Il-10 4966 built
Blenheim 4422 built
B-29 3970 built
I-153 3437 built
MiG-3 3172 built
A-26 2452 built
Stirling 2383 built
Tu-2 2257 built
Do17 2139 built
CR.42 1817 built
Do217 1730 built
DB-3 1528
Hampden 1430 built
SM.79 1350 built
Ju188 1234 built
Me410 ~1200 built
He177 1169 built
C.200 1153 built

[skribetm]

Many, many more.  Here is a list of Japanese aircraft with production totals above 1000 that are not in the game:

Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
Ki-21 "Sally" 2064 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-48 "Lily" 1997 built
Ki-46 "Dinah" 1746 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-27 "Nate" 1329 built
B6N "Jill" 1268 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
P1Y1 "Frances" 1098 built
G3M "Nell" 1048 built
N1K1-J "George" 1007 built


There are a great many aircraft from other nations as well that have production totals well over 1000.  Some examples:

Wellington 11464 built
Pe-2 11400 built
SB2C Helldiver 7140 built
SB-2 6656 built
He111 6508 built
LaGG-3 6258 built
Halifax 6176 built
Beaufighter 5928 built
Il-4 5256 built
Il-10 4966 built
Blenheim 4422 built
B-29 3970 built
I-153 3437 built
MiG-3 3172 built
A-26 2452 built
Stirling 2383 built
Tu-2 2257 built
Do17 2139 built
CR.42 1817 built
Do217 1730 built
DB-3 1528
Hampden 1430 built
SM.79 1350 built
Ju188 1234 built
Me410 ~1200 built
He177 1169 built
C.200 1153 built

maaaaaan thats a LOT!
  thank you karnak, here's to hoping we get the complete list in our lifetime! 
but maybe even if we just get the ones that are are essential to the scenarios first.