Me262 won't sustain level flight

[grizz441]

Played with 262 in TA and found that auto level (X key) works fine but if you turn off the auto level and turn on the Combat Trim it rolls slowly to the left as it's climbing for the moon.

It's not the auto pilot, it's the Combat Trim that's out of whack.

I agree, it's the combat trim.  Also I think its rate of acceleration is lower now.  Kappa and I both agree, and we probably have the most jet experience in game of active pilots.  I'd appreciate if HTC took a strong look at it and try to figure out how it could have gotten changed with the WW1 implementation.

[trotter]

Just wanted to give this thread a bump, as after having flown the 262 in Frame 1 of the Final Battle scenario, I too can definitely testify that something is very wrong with the 262.

Any chance we can get this fixed before the remaining frames? Pretty please?

[Madkow]

It did make for a fun frame 1. 

[Chilli]

Also found nose lift tendency / elevator trim leveling, to be a problem in most any aircraft I have flown recently.  Most noticeable level flight difficulties occur in WW I planes (I cannot keep any straight flight other than with auto pilot.  The nose porpoises constantly.  I have adjusted the axis settings in a different mode for WW I planes, so that should not effect the settings in normal mode that I use for WW 2 planes.

   This constant "updraft" may have paid off for me though.  I lost all elevator control in my A20, and was able to fly a full sector and land perfectly on the runway, using throttle, rudder, ailerons and (flaps just before touchdown).

[kingcobradude]

my b17 went to like 27 degrees nose up an did not stall. is that normal?

[lulu]

In previous version patch this problem affected wwI planes only.
Now it seems extended to plane as p47M, me262, c47 too.
If it is combact trim and htc will not solve it accurately, then we will
lost p38, p51, f4u ability ...

 

[Plazus]

my b17 went to like 27 degrees nose up an did not stall. is that normal?

It is completely normal if your B17 has sufficient airspeed to maintain that angle of climb. Also, if your B17 is light, it will climb better.

[kingcobradude]

It is completely normal if your B17 has sufficient airspeed to maintain that angle of climb. Also, if your B17 is light, it will climb better.

fully laden right after takeoff with little airspeed

[Ack-Ack]

In previous version patch this problem affected wwI planes only.
Now it seems extended to plane as p47M, me262, c47 too.
If it is combact trim and htc will not solve it accurately, then we will
lost p38, p51, f4u ability ...

 

Why would we lose "P-38 ability"?

ack-ack

[Dimebag]

You working on a fix for this?  It's awful like it is right now 

Regards,

A Jettard 

[Madkow]

Frame 2 was almost unplayable. I would be less upset if they would have given us an update so I would know to spend the time with my family. 
 

[grizz441]

A quick fix for this guys, turn auto trim off in your flight menu, and then use I and K to trim your jet.  After you come off autopilot, your trim will be saved still.  Of course, your trim will vary based on your speed but you can find a much better compromised trim than the current settings. 

And make sure you turn auto trim back on after you fly other aircraft if that's what you are used to!

[Krusty]

It may not "just" be the trim tables...

I've been tooling around offline in the 47N while working on a skin and I've noticed it's a LOT more annoying than it used to be. I haven't flown online since the WW1 updates so this was my first experience with it.

First, when rolling takeoff, it had a HORRIBLE roll towards the left. This is without combat trim, and my manual trim levers (throttle quadrant ftw!) had to be jammed full over to correct me. Without full right trim, I was keeping my stick about 60% deflected to the right just to stay even. Loaded 8 guns light and 25% fuel, no ords.

I had a hard time with the elevator trim as well. I would have to really dial it back to get the nose up a bit and then after I hit about 175-200 I had to floor it down to stay level.

The funny thing is that on landing this roll force was greatly reduced.


I'm thinking some settings are out of whack regarding the torque and gyrational forces on the plane. These were implemented into the WW1 planes and somehow spilled over into WW2. I don't think it's "normal" because this is a 11,000 pound plane. It's not going to require 60% right stick deflection on takeoff just to stay stable.



Just a thought on another possible reason for the trim tabs: They're still right, but the forces acting on the planes are off instead?

[grizz441]

Thanks for the fix HTC!