Mustang Mk I

[Krusty]

 

Quad hizzos fill the void.
No skill imbued/implied,
Up HO and die.
You're not paranoid.
They all chase you to ground,
They are hunting you down!



P.S. why did you put Tom Selleck in your avatar? 

P.P.S. In case you never saw it:

[phatzo]

Yes. The Australian called Bronk that flew Bish at some point back  in time? That is why.

I think that was Bronc as in Brisbane Broncos

[Guppy35]

I believe our allies would disagree with you. After the introduction of the Mk IA the earlier Mk Is were converted to IAs (in that the Hispanos were mounted) and these aircraft were used throughout the war as interdiction types. Just because you dont see books or movies about an airplane doesnt mean it 'played almost no role in WWII.' The British found these planes to be vital to the war effort. Sorry about your bias (aka ignorance).

I'd be curious as to where you found that info.  I'd also like to see some photo evidence of this in RAF units.  You are suggesting it was a simple thing to swap out mgs for 20mm in the Mustang wings.  Again show me some documentation of this.  I've never come across this conversion of Mk I to Mk IA anywhere.  I don't believe for a second they just took out the MGs and put in 20mm. 

The RAF ordered 150 and got 93 as the USAAF took back a few.  The number was made up with 4 50cal winged Allison Mustangs.    Of the roughly 700 Allison Mustangs the RAF got, less then 100 were 4 cannon birds. 

The MG equipped Allison Mustang was a far more important Mustang for the RAF.  It also was far more important to the USAAF and if the wish was a desire for the MG equipped Allison Mustang, I'm all for it.

But this isn't.  It's another give me a 4 cannon bird request hidden in the guise of a Mustang.  It was an insignificant variant of the Allison breed. 

[Karnak]

I believe our allies would disagree with you. After the introduction of the Mk IA the earlier Mk Is were converted to IAs (in that the Hispanos were mounted) and these aircraft were used throughout the war as interdiction types. Just because you dont see books or movies about an airplane doesnt mean it 'played almost no role in WWII.' The British found these planes to be vital to the war effort. Sorry about your bias (aka ignorance).

I'd like to see some support of that.  So far as I know, the Typhoon and Tempest were not seen as vital to the war effort.  Typhoon was nearly canceled in its infancy, only being saved by its ability to run down the low level Fw190 nuisance raiders.  If the Typhoon had been canceled, well, no Tempest would have been.  I think you are putting words in the RAF's mouth about what was vital to the war effort as a shockingly low number of said Mustangs were ordered for an aircraft that was so vital to the RAF.

[BnZs]

I used to live on Red Baron Pizza, and now we have WWI, so I went with it.....more apropo than the Kurgan, at any rate.

Quad hizzos fill the void.
No skill imbued/implied,
Up HO and die.
You're not paranoid.
They all chase you to ground,
They are hunting you down!



P.S. why did you put Tom Selleck in your avatar?  

P.P.S. In case you never saw it: (Image removed from quote.)

[DEECONX]

Just so you guys know, Im cool with also getting the Allison pony, rather than the quad cannon. Would make a nice addition to early war and special events. 

[321BAR]

Just so you guys know, Im cool with also getting the Allison pony, rather than the quad cannon. Would make a nice addition to early war and special events.  

51Bs an allison
edit: wrong wrong wrong... so wrong on me

[Krusty]

 


You might want to recheck that.

[321BAR]

You might want to recheck that.

shutting up

[gpwurzel]

Sorry, I just had to, it was begging me to use it.


Wurzel

[Guppy35]

Just so you guys know, Im cool with also getting the Allison pony, rather than the quad cannon. Would make a nice addition to early war and special events. 

Just so you know, the RAF and USAAF had Allison Mustangs in action until the end of the war in recce and Army Coop roles.  USAAF used Allison Mustangs in the CBI as well.

More of a midwar-latewar bird, not early war as the Allison Mustangs got into the war in 42

[5PointOh]

I myself (being a pony driver 90% of the time) would much rather have a 51A vs any four cannoned bird.  Most of the other aircraft in AH have 3+ variants, about time for the first Mustang to be avalible.

[Guppy35]

I myself (being a pony driver 90% of the time) would much rather have a 51A vs any four cannoned bird.  Most of the other aircraft in AH have 3+ variants, about time for the first Mustang to be avalible.

(Image removed from quote.)

And that would make sense with the RAF Mk I and the 4 MG USAAF P51s used either as tac recon or as fighters in the CBI.

[Karnak]

Most of the other aircraft in AH have 3+ variants, about time for the first Mustang to be avalible.

I don't think that is true.

Spitfire: 7 (counting Seafire)

Bf109: 6

Fw190: 5 (counting Ta152)
F4U: 5
P-47: 5

Hurricane: 3
P-38: 3

A6M: 2
A-20: 2
B-25: 2
Bf110: 2
C.2: 2
F4F: 2 (counting FM2)
La: 2
P-39: 2
P-40: 2
P-51: 2
Yak: 2

Ar234: 1
B6N: 1
B-17: 1
B-24: 1
B-26: 1
C-47: 1
D3A: 1
F6F: 1
Ju87: 1
Ju88: 1
Ki-61: 1
Ki-67: 1
Ki-84: 1
I-16: 1
Il-2: 1
Lancaster: 1
Me163: 1
Me262: 1
Mosquito: 1
N1K: 1
SBD: 1
TBM: 1
Tempest: 1
Typhoon: 1


As you can see, most types do not in fact have 3+ variants.  While the list includes aircraft like the Ar234 that had no other variants, it also includes the Ju88 and Mosquito at one each, and those two aircraft had more variants that saw combat than any other types.  The B-17, B-24, Ki-61 and N1K all have strong claims to other significant versions while only having one model of their types in the game.

I don't object to the P-51 getting another model, but don't paint it as  a red heading step child as it certainly is not.

[lyric1]

I don't think that is true.

Spitfire: 7 (counting Seafire)

Bf109: 6

Fw190: 5 (counting Ta152)
F4U: 5
P-47: 5

Hurricane: 3
P-38: 3

A6M: 2
A-20: 2
B-25: 2
Bf110: 2
C.2: 2
F4F: 2 (counting FM2)
La: 2
P-39: 2
P-40: 2
P-51: 2
Yak: 2

Ar234: 1
B6N: 1
B-17: 1
B-24: 1
B-26: 1
C-47: 1
D3A: 1
F6F: 1
Ju87: 1
Ju88: 1
Ki-61: 1
Ki-67: 1
Ki-84: 1
I-16: 1
Il-2: 1
Lancaster: 1
Me163: 1
Me262: 1
Mosquito: 1
N1K: 1
SBD: 1
TBM: 1
Tempest: 1
Typhoon: 1


As you can see, most types do not in fact have 3+ variants.  While the list includes aircraft like the Ar234 that had no other variants, it also includes the Ju88 and Mosquito at one each, and those two aircraft had more variants that saw combat than any other types.  The B-17, B-24, Ki-61 and N1K all have strong claims to other significant versions while only having one model of their types in the game.

I don't object to the P-51 getting another model, but don't paint it as  a red heading step child as it certainly is not.

I think you could make the argument that the B25 has possibly 3 types when you turn it into the solid nose?