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Offline oTRALFZo

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2010, 03:34:17 PM »
My God, you waffle more than John Kerry.   You say that both styles of play are necessary to sustain healthy play, but then turn around and insult 'land grabbers' as Noobs because VETs should be bored of that style.  By the way, I would like to see your data to support that the real estate game is dominated by new subscribers.  Had you really wanted to prove your point, you certainly could have examined at least some percentage of 'top' players and checked to see how many bases they have or have not taken.  At least then your statement could have merit.  On the other hand, your unsupported statement (which is opinion) being represented as fact, has no more merit or basis than some idiot making a blanket statement that "all illegal immigrants are stupid, alcoholics, who drive dunk." 

As to the point regarding the bombers shutting down the furball....  Again, one would have to know the 'bombers' motivation.  If it is for the sole purpose of trying to ruin others fun, you are 100% correct - it should be frowned upon and stopped.  However, as others have stated, they could see the furball, assume there is a contested battle and shut down the field to further 'their sides' cause.  (Might have done the wrong thing, but for the right reason.)  Or you might consider that the pickers in the furball were winning out and pushing the fight back to the 'bombers' bases.  Once the furball has been pushed too close to one side, that side can no longer get the altitude to mount a proper defense; the result, they get shot down again and the fight gets pushed even further toward the base.  Eventually, there exists a vulch opportunity.  Therefore, an enterprising bomber ups from a rear base and takes down the hangers at opposing field.  Thus, the fight is able to get pushed back toward the enemy field and the furball can continue back on more neutral ground.

Again, you can't make a blanket statement that all 'hanger bangers' are fun killers.  If you want to sustain your furball, then have a few guys stay high and wait for the bombers -- when they come hanger banging who will be the more surprised now (assuming 999000 is not in the gun)   :salute

Now, for the record, I am not supporting one style of play or the other.  They are all a part of the game that HTC designed.  Let people play, encourage good sportsmanship, and enjoy the game.  What I am denouncing is people who assume that furballing is the elitist skill and anyone who disagrees must be a noob because "no self-respecting vet" should be interested in base captures.  If that is your mentality, I would encourage your to bend over and kiss me right in the crack of my azz. :salute

 Lawman, your only reading what you wanna hear. If you took as only noobs fly the base take game, then so be it. Im not an exact statistics guy (waiting for lusche to chime in), but from experience you are more likely to have guys that are relativly new fly those NOE missions and try to win maps than you are to have guys that have been playing this game who just like to kill things. They wanna be part of something big so even if they fly these missions, they manage to take down one ack gun, or accidently bomb the undestructable, when the base turns green, its a sense of accomplishment.

I remember you from way back, I know you like to join missions for the comradary. The joy of flying with a bunch of buddies all with the same goal. Also Ive never seen you as the type to complain, but ask yourself this: would what I was doing tick me off if it was done to me?  I have seen plenty of times on 200 the whines of "HOARDES" coming from guys that are the first to join the same type missions when tables are turned and suddenly they are the ones having to fight them.
Again, if you play the base take game, you are required to play a "gamey" type game..admit it!! You need the #s to back you up, You need to remove the opposition thats fighting you back or your goal will not be reached.
Theres a reason why these Mega-squads are hated, and why is that? Im no member of any elitist club, nor am I sportin the cape and tights for justice and humanity, nor do I claim that my playing habbits fall in the codes of honor. Im stating how I feel on certain aspects of gameplay. If the above really upsets me, then I have the power to log off or join another arena if I want to.
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Offline Bear76

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2010, 03:47:02 PM »
I agree completely, it is GREAT fun busting a mission.  And yes, they are often easy kills because they are focused on other things beside the bogey flying up their tail-pipe.   :D  But, the fact that they are heavy with bombs, or are focused on the town, does not mean they are a flying phone-number guy who is happy to be able to stay up past 8:00p.m.  Each aspect of the game is interdependent.   The fact is there are a lot of newer players who get drawn into missions (for obvious reasons previously stated).   But that does not mean they are all noobs and it does not mean they are some lesser-class of player because they don't play one way or the other.

On the other hand, grizz, as one who is known for being a good stick and proclaimed - in it for the fight type - one could argue that there is no challenge in 'clubbing baby seals' and you doing something nefarious in playing that way.  (I wouldn't make that argument, but based on the responses above, one COULD make it.)   :D

Do you have data to support these facts?  :D

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2010, 04:14:03 PM »

This is about as spot on as it gets. :aok

If you are meeting halfway at similar altitudes and joining in the fight...not picking off the ones going into a fight...that is fur-balling
Not many in this game understand that..


so how many times do you turn into a fur ball and find a nice 1v1 only to get picked almost every time. it's like cryin bought the HO,

Evan when i duck to avoid the HO i still get hit sometimes. to assume that a good co alt fur ball will be the pinnacle of honor is absurd so as many others do, i Will turn to tactics that are dictated by the situation on a moment to moment basis.

Is this a bad thing, I don't really care. If clubbing baby seals be your thing, more power to ya.
If land grabbing be your thing or gettin furry or just the plain old pick n vultch. WHO CARES !!!! if you care that much then maybe it's time to turn the puter off for a while and go to rehab.

where is the fun in cryin bought other folks not following game play as you think it should be played...


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Offline froger

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2010, 04:47:17 PM »
Biggest load of crap???   Ha ha ..... If you think some people don't drop fighter hangers at a field that has a good fight going.......just to effect gameplay of others .... then your sticking your head in the sand .  I fly fighters because i enjoy it .... not for "my name in lights"    If it were up to me I would do away with the kill messages.


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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2010, 06:11:54 PM »
It's great fun busting up land grab missions, as it is the best seal clubbing the game has to offer.  Hate to say it, but I think the AI drones in offline practice are more of a threat than some of the win the war players.  At least the drones don't auger.  Personally I need the WtW gameplay because some of the best killin/fun to be had is when you can get 10-15 seals in the same area all with one thing in mind, capture teh base!

Nothing is more satisfying than stumbling over an NOE mission and then single-handedly destroying every last one of them.
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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2010, 06:19:13 PM »
Last night the WM's decided to switch to Rook.   Flying in the vicinity of ElGuapo, ELK, GhstDncr and others, was nothing short of hilarious.    :joystick:

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2010, 06:20:22 PM »
Nothing is more satisfying than stumbling over an NOE mission and then single-handedly destroying every last one of them.






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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2010, 10:08:47 PM »
"Historics" of what? Were all playing on a miniature continents with an equally available plane set, and no nationalistic limitations resources or manpower. And your talking about keeping things historic?
If this game were as historic as some claim it should be there would be such an unprofitably small audience this game probably wouldn't even exist.  :rolleyes:

Oy. When people mean Historics they mean the people who want to try and either fly missions to a historic accuracy such as 5- 4 P51Ds formation covering 36 B24s to a target such as a base or 3 and then HQ or people who fly FSO or snapshots
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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2010, 10:37:52 PM »
Last night the WM's decided to switch to Rook.   Flying in the vicinity of ElGuapo, ELK, GhstDncr and others, was nothing short of hilarious.    :joystick:



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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2010, 11:05:42 PM »
SQUAD, COUNTRY & SHEEP

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #130 on: April 03, 2010, 11:14:49 PM »
I just log in and do wtf I want.  :cool:

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Re: Squad & Country
« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2010, 01:32:52 AM »
SHEEP GOOD  :aok
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