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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2010, 10:12:30 AM »
OMG...kingcobradude, keep trying and you may one day master the google:


whatever a P-51D-20 was

Why we dont have them in varients is beyond me. didnt get the dorsal fin till -10 ...didnt get the k14 sight till -20 ...didnt have rockets till the -25/-30

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/p51variants/P-51D.php

OH! and thats a very large hook spit it out.
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Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520

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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2010, 12:52:30 PM »
you on dope? the japanese bombed pearl harbor, not the germans

Are you sure about that?

I see a German plane in that picture, not a Japanese one.



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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2010, 12:54:02 PM »
With all this talk of 20mm Mustangs and long range tanks, I thought I'd better make sure I was accurate.  Turns out I was wrong.  I found some references to an obscure variant of the P51 better known as the P51VLR(20mm)

Apparently prior to the capture of Iwo Jima there were concerns about escorting the B29s all the way to Japan.  North American went to work on the basic Mustang design and came up with this beauty.

Specifications were: 

P51VLR(20mm)
-Pressurized cockpit for high altitude flight
-Wings lengthened and strengthened to take 300 gallon DTs. 
-Wings also sealed up to "wet wing' configuration so that all internal space outside of guns and ammo housed more fuel.  Test flights of up to 16 hours were flown.
-4 20mm cannon.  There had been concerns with the hitting power of 6 50cals against bombers up high so this was tested out.  Improved Tempest style Hispanos were used.
-Ability to carry 2000 pound bombs in place of drop tanks.
-10 rockets on zero length rocket rails outboard of the 300 gallon DTs or 2000 pound bombs.
-Auto-pilot so that pilots could rest on the way to a target
-Radar pod on the end of the right wing.  This was similar to what Marine Corsair and Hellcat night fighters had.  This was to help the pilot spot E/A earlier for intercept.

Due to all the modifications there was talk of changing the name to "Scorpion" but it was thought that this might cause problems with modifying existing Mustang contracts so the Mustang name was retained.

While I admit introducing this bird into Aces High might bring fear to a lot of people, I only thing it fair that in the interest of history and providing for a better game envirionment, that we should have the P51VLR(20mm)


I see that it already has Chalenge's scorpion logo, though the color should be red.  How was fuel consumption at 35,000ft?


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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2010, 12:56:39 PM »
+1 I like the idea
but I cannot find proof of that thing
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2010, 12:57:04 PM »
I love the  recommendation for the pilots to fly inverted ...lol
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2010, 01:08:14 PM »
With all this talk of 20mm Mustangs and long range tanks, I thought I'd better make sure I was accurate.  Turns out I was wrong.  I found some references to an obscure variant of the P51 better known as the P51VLR(20mm)

Apparently prior to the capture of Iwo Jima there were concerns about escorting the B29s all the way to Japan.  North American went to work on the basic Mustang design and came up with this beauty.

Specifications were: 

P51VLR(20mm)
-Pressurized cockpit for high altitude flight
-Wings lengthened and strengthened to take 300 gallon DTs. 
-Wings also sealed up to "wet wing' configuration so that all internal space outside of guns and ammo housed more fuel.  Test flights of up to 16 hours were flown.
-4 20mm cannon.  There had been concerns with the hitting power of 6 50cals against bombers up high so this was tested out.  Improved Tempest style Hispanos were used.
-Ability to carry 2000 pound bombs in place of drop tanks.
-10 rockets on zero length rocket rails outboard of the 300 gallon DTs or 2000 pound bombs.
-Auto-pilot so that pilots could rest on the way to a target
-Radar pod on the end of the right wing.  This was similar to what Marine Corsair and Hellcat night fighters had.  This was to help the pilot spot E/A earlier for intercept.

Due to all the modifications there was talk of changing the name to "Scorpion" but it was thought that this might cause problems with modifying existing Mustang contracts so the Mustang name was retained.

While I admit introducing this bird into Aces High might bring fear to a lot of people, I only thing it fair that in the interest of history and providing for a better game envirionment, that we should have the P51VLR(20mm)

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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2010, 01:12:12 PM »
Are you sure about that?

I see a German plane in that picture, not a Japanese one.
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2010, 01:26:13 PM »
You want a new pony? Shove the 51A in :aok

Nah, I don't want another Mustang.  I just was trying to be considerate of the need more range, and 20mm cannon crowd.  When I came across the info on the P51VLR(20mm) it only seemed right to post it.
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2010, 01:36:55 PM »
Nah, I don't want another Mustang.  I just was trying to be considerate of the need more range, and 20mm cannon crowd.  When I came across the info on the P51VLR(20mm) it only seemed right to post it.
ok. well then other planes please. shove the a6m6 in then or the a6m3. get an hour and a half in flight
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2010, 03:50:29 PM »
Are you sure about that?

I see a German plane in that picture, not a Japanese one.
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2010, 04:16:00 PM »
did you fail history class too? that is photoshopped
LOL!
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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2010, 04:32:10 PM »
did you fail history class too? that is photoshopped

Wow.


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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2010, 04:33:01 PM »
LOL!
Ack ack you should enter the Bass Master's Classic!

First time I caught a fish without even dropping a line. 


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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2010, 04:35:56 PM »
See Rule #4

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Re: The Mustang we really need.
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2010, 04:37:37 PM »
First time I caught a fish without even dropping a line. 


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