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Offline angels10

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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #270 on: May 07, 2010, 08:30:03 AM »
 I have just read 18 pages of opinions not facts.
 
  I have been a Claim Jumper for 2- 2 1/2 years. Yes on the odd occasion we can get 20 -30 of us together for a mission. The norm is around 15 not more than most other posted missions in the MA. The difference is we are all in the same squad not a posted mission.

  There is not now nor has there ever been a goal set forth on making game play unfair or not fun. This would be very stupid thinking us trying to ruin the Game we love most.
 
  What i have seen most enjoyable is getting online and having fun making jokes at our own expense.  We as a squad do have lots of fun Trying to take bases that's what Claim Jumpers do.
 
   I am online a lot in the winter months and run some of these dreaded  horde base captures. 90% of our captures are with the field completely intact leaving the enemy time to up and fight.

   The easiest way I can come up with to show you guys what we do is to send an open invitation.  Tune to VOX 114 Rook side and tell them Angels10 sent you stay and fly with us for one night you will see we are just having fun like everyone else. There is no hidden agenda Racdogg is just a recruiting ho who likes numbers, little red ball,and closet time.

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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #271 on: May 07, 2010, 10:01:34 AM »

 
  I have been a Claim Jumper for 2- 2 1/2 years. Yes on the odd occasion we can get 20 -30 of us together for a mission. The norm is around 15 not more than most other posted missions in the MA. The difference is we are all in the same squad not a posted mission.


I am a rabid map watcher.  I see a base flashing and I will check it out.  I have run into alot of NOE CJ missions, and very rarely is there less than 20 participants.  So I feel qualified to comment on this with what I feel to be facts.  If you upped missions that large above dar instead of below, folks would respect you fellas a bit more.  No flaming, just FYI.
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #272 on: May 07, 2010, 11:28:37 AM »

  What i have seen most enjoyable is getting online and having fun making jokes at our own expense.  We as a squad do have lots of fun Trying to take bases that's what Claim Jumpers do.
 
  The easiest way I can come up with to show you guys what we do is to send an open invitation.  Tune to VOX 114 Rook side and tell them Angels10 sent you stay and fly with us for one night you will see we are just having fun like everyone else. There is no hidden agenda Racdogg is just a recruiting ho who likes numbers, little red ball,and closet time.

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Making jokes at CJ expense? When have we ever...

Still, the man stands behind the product - which is a lot safer than standing in front of it.

I honestly never had much of a dog in this fight but will give you a friendly word of advice:tell that 1lt... guy who likes to fly the C205 not to leave it for too long on AP. Once I realized nobody was home, things unraveled pretty quickly.
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #273 on: May 07, 2010, 12:38:44 PM »
From the guy always giving info on 200 to enemy. I can't have it my way then I'll tell on them. I don't like the way they are playing so I'll ruin their game too,maybe if I harass them enough they will leave and I can have my way. All things I have witnessed glad we have squelch. If people would pay a little more attention to themselves instead of others the world would be a better place.
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Offline COndor06

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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #274 on: May 07, 2010, 12:52:14 PM »
I have just read 18 pages of opinions not facts.

Hey Angels 10. While your opinions and post are as welcome (and appreciated) as anyone else here I think we are getting off point of this forum.  The buy product of the conversation of taking carriers out of game play has been opinions listed in protest to such a large squad, hoards, blah blah blah.

While I don’t believe having a squad of 140+ is good for the game I don’t have any right to tell you guys how to spend your time or dictate to you what is and isn’t acceptable fun squad sizes.

With that being said, the facts are as follows:
1.   Cjs have taken upon themselves to decide what CVs will or will not stay in game play.
2.   The major majority of Rooks on this issue have agreed it’s not acceptable for your squad to take exclusive control of these carriers and put them in never never land.
3.   We have asked to have them returned to Rook control and not just CJ control.
4.   Every response to this issue from your squad can be summed up in a single sentence, we will do whatever we want to do. Not once was an opportunity offered by your squad to do anything other than continue hiding CVs.
5.   Because of the rude nature demonstrated by your squad on 200, country channel, and in this forum, more and more Rooks have turned to further opinions and insults of your squad based on what they have seen or read. Human nature being what it is.

I guess the question here is, what is your response to the issue of CJs having exclusive control and deciding who gets to run Rook CVs.

Lets not cover the idea of other CVs around that we can play with and stay on the point. Any CV that the CJs exclusively deemed to be taken out of game play and maintained control of for 4 days while other squads were asking for them to be returned.
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #275 on: May 07, 2010, 01:40:00 PM »


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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #276 on: May 07, 2010, 01:45:44 PM »
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Thanks for making my point...........Spoken like a true Claim Jumper  (so far)??????????
« Last Edit: May 07, 2010, 02:22:31 PM by COndor06 »
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #277 on: May 07, 2010, 02:00:30 PM »
Was it you who did the pushin'
left the stains upon the cushion
footprints on the dashboard upside down?

If I find, you sly clam humper
you pumped my bivalve in its dumper
then I think you'll have to leave this town

yes twas I who did the pushin'
left the stains upon the cushion
footprints on the dashboard upside down

But since I've got into your oyster
I've had trouble passing moisture
so let's call it even all around


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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #278 on: May 07, 2010, 04:53:42 PM »
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #279 on: May 07, 2010, 05:46:20 PM »
Hey Angels 10. While your opinions and post are as welcome (and appreciated) as anyone else here I think we are getting off point of this forum.  The buy product of the conversation of taking carriers out of game play has been opinions listed in protest to such a large squad, hoards, blah blah blah.

While I don’t believe having a squad of 140+ is good for the game I don’t have any right to tell you guys how to spend your time or dictate to you what is and isn’t acceptable fun squad sizes.

With that being said, the facts are as follows:
1.   Cjs have taken upon themselves to decide what CVs will or will not stay in game play.
2.   The major majority of Rooks on this issue have agreed it’s not acceptable for your squad to take exclusive control of these carriers and put them in never never land.
3.   We have asked to have them returned to Rook control and not just CJ control.
4.   Every response to this issue from your squad can be summed up in a single sentence, we will do whatever we want to do. Not once was an opportunity offered by your squad to do anything other than continue hiding CVs.
5.   Because of the rude nature demonstrated by your squad on 200, country channel, and in this forum, more and more Rooks have turned to further opinions and insults of your squad based on what they have seen or read. Human nature being what it is.

I guess the question here is, what is your response to the issue of CJs having exclusive control and deciding who gets to run Rook CVs.

Lets not cover the idea of other CVs around that we can play with and stay on the point. Any CV that the CJs exclusively deemed to be taken out of game play and maintained control of for 4 days while other squads were asking for them to be returned.



The following are responses to your numbered list:

1. We're talking about one event.  I wasn't there but as a general rule I don't condone the taking of CVs and stashing them.
2. I respect that, I don't personally mess w/ the CVs.  I dont like them floating in never never land either.
3. Once again, one time event.
4. I can't comment on the situation b/c I wasn't there.  "We will do whatever we want" is probably a standard response from anyone paying to play a game.  Does it make it right or wrong? Not necessarily.  I don't personally condone what was done w/ the CVs.
5. Rudeness on 200 or this forum is, well, not exactly uncommon.  I try to keep things on the up and up, but I can only control my keyboard.  

My response to CJs having control of the CVs is this:  You are asserting that a CJ has control of each CV for 24/7.  That is simply not true.  The current system allows each player the right to control a CV based upon rank.  We do not and never will have "exclusive control" or dictate who gets to run the CVs.  If a CJ wants to take a CV and move into position for an attack, I'll support him.  If a CJ wants to take control of a CV to re-route it away from 3 consecutive PT spawns to protect it, I'll support him.  

I will say that I do not like the idea of CVs floating in the corner of the map.  I don't condone taking control of CVs for that purpose.

Why do you believe a squad of 140(using your number, b/c I don't know) is bad for the game?  

I hear this a lot, but w/o any real reasoning.  As someone (Pitch, I believe) said earlier, we do A LOT of training.  Unlike some squads, we don't recruit based upon rank.  We have TA sessions working on ACM, level bombing, manual calibration, dive bombing, GVing, how to hit ack guns w/ rockets, etc.  Pretty much any skill needed we teach it.  Do we do NOE hoarde runs, yup, just like a bunch of other squads.  But we also will fly strategic multi-faceted missions as well.  

I'm not here to change your opinion about us.  If you don't like us, fine.  I will say that most opinions would be changed if you took Angels10 up on his offer.  We have fun.  We like to take bases.  We don't mind running missions that have a low probability of success.  We don't mind dying.  Bring your clubs and come smash some baby seals if you feel that makes you feel better.  If you want to target me, my in game is GEAR.  I'm usually flying solo in a P51D w/ a blue nose.  Come on out and find me.  Bring some friends, if you want. :aok    

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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #280 on: May 07, 2010, 06:24:29 PM »
I logged on the other night and saw all those CV's stashed. Not the first time I have seen this either. It really is a pointless thing to do, even drawing a picture of your willy with its course has more point.
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #281 on: May 07, 2010, 06:54:05 PM »
even drawing a picture of your willy with its course has more point.

Short trip?  Or, given the topic should I have said "free willy"?
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #282 on: May 07, 2010, 07:07:05 PM »
I've been in the MA when Mjsmoke up there WAS controling 5 CV's, and kepping them stashed in the corner, by jumping from CV to CV to keep the corrald.

You guys keep saying your squad doesnt do it, yet again and again i've you guys doing the same thing on the large maps.
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #283 on: May 07, 2010, 07:09:19 PM »
Short trip?  Or, given the topic should I have said "free willy"?
I can only do it on the big maps
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Re: Taking Carriers Out Of The Game??????
« Reply #284 on: May 07, 2010, 07:15:07 PM »
Geez...STOP YOUR CRYING..Sounding like little girls in here..Its an effective tactic in the game..DEAL WITH IT....

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