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Offline 1776

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« on: July 29, 2001, 09:18:00 AM »
Am I the only Intel fan out here??  Anyone else still going to upgrade with Intel?

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2001, 11:38:00 AM »
I use Intel, but I will not go the P4 route due to the limited life of the current design.
Once Intel settles on another bus design that will have better shelf life, I will then look into them again.  
P3's are getting cheaper and the the chipset support is still better than the AMD processors have (sigh).
I know many will jump in here and claim to have no problems with the AMD support chips, but I consider not being able to reliably run AGP 4X speeds a problem.

I also have a rather unique environment.  All our systems have to be able to be servers in a heartbeat.  For this, Intel gets the nod, as UNIX just works better and more reliably with Intel support chips.

This does not mean I am a fan of Intel.  Quite the oppposite, I hope one day AMD will get a 100% compatible suport chip solution so I can move away from Intel.  Until then, I am stuck.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2001, 11:40:00 AM »
The P-4/2G comes out next month.

<drool>

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2001, 12:08:00 PM »
BTW, I currently have a Dual Xeon/400MhZ system, a P3-600EB system and a P3-1GhZ system operating in my house... with a P3-1GhZ chip waiting for a new home.

I can't wait to see if I can fenagle an Itanium processor sometime later this year :D

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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2001, 08:43:00 AM »
Hmmm.  Clock rates do not mean much to me anymore Deja.

What's the best/worst case number of t-states between instruction fetch and execution as compared to the current P4, or P3's?
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2001, 09:47:00 AM »
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BTW, I currently have a Dual Xeon/400MhZ system, a P3-600EB system and a P3-1GhZ system operating in my house... with a P3-1GhZ chip waiting for a new home.

I can't wait to see if I can fenagle an Itanium processor sometime later this year  :D

AKDejaVu

got any extra pIII 1ghz SLOT1's laying around???

i could use one!  $$$$

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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2001, 10:49:00 AM »
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What's the best/worst case number of t-states between instruction fetch and execution as compared to the current P4, or P3's?

Dunno, and I think you are a complete geek for even asking.

Now.. tell me you don't want an Itanium Skuzzy... come on... you know you do.

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2001, 11:41:00 AM »
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got any extra pIII 1ghz SLOT1's laying around???

i could use one!  $$$$

Get a good slocket adapter and get yourself an FCPGA chip.  That way you're not left with that slot1 garbage when/if you decide to upgrade your motherboard!


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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2001, 01:08:00 PM »
anybody got any PIII 1ghz FCPGA, with adapter laying around?  :D

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2001, 09:26:00 PM »
AKDejaVu ......

The P-4/2G comes out next month. Is this the new  P4 ?

 :D

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2001, 05:43:00 PM »
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Dunno, and I think you are a complete geek for even asking.

Now.. tell me you don't want an Itanium Skuzzy... come on... you know you do.

AKDejaVu

Why yes,..I am a geek.  Thought everyone knew that  :p.

Dunno about itanium.  Have not checked up on it.  I usually do not get excited about new processors, until I get some t-state info, which is a better performance indicator than clock rates.
Got the assembly book for the itanium?  It should have the t-state info in it.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2001, 07:09:00 PM »
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Got the assembly book for the itanium? It should have the t-state info in it.

Nope.. and you are (once again) a geek for even asking.

From what I've heard, the Itanium is something you may want to check into.  Of course, it would only be for the drool factor since I don't think they are ever going to be reasonably priced.  Then again.. where there is a will there is a way ;)

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2001, 05:25:00 AM »
hmmm... my dad always said " Where there's a will, there's relatives."

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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2001, 04:53:00 PM »
Hey deja,..I work hard at being a geek,...you have any idea the amount of work, effort, coordination, and will power it takes to keep 200 pencils and pens in a pocket protector?
Not to mention, the permanent bubble gum attached to my shoes, and how difficult it is to really not wher matching socks, then there is the shirtail issue.
My wife finally cut all my shirt talks off so they would not half hang in and out of my pants.   :)

Ya know what?.....  I sound a lot like an Intel employee.  :)

[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: Skuzzy ]
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2001, 10:09:00 PM »
From what I've heard the new P4s are coming out the same day as windows XP is supposed to be officially released.  AMD is also supposed to be releasing desktop Palominos (Athlon 4) around 1.5+ GHz then too.

Skuzzy, have you looked at Nvidia's nForce yet?  All of AMDs chipset nightmares with Taiwaneese manufacturers may be over...

Frankly, I'd rather have a P3 Tualatin than a P4 (Willamette type) right now.