New M4's are somewhat strong

[OOZ662]

I have killshot myself on a friendly outside icon range...

If it weren't for the glitch of not seeing incoming rounds after a certain distance, I bet that guy would've been rather irritated.

[WWhiskey]

I have killshot myself on a friendly outside icon range...

me two!!

[gravy1]

these new m4s both of them gotta be over modeled i am a gver 95% of the time and cant kill them with less than 3 shots i just went up against tyrant i was in the one with out rockets and he was also he took 2 to the front and 2 to the side and 2 to the rear side and the 7th one finally killed him and this was from 400 out not even long shots not to mention the 3 ricochets off the tank. and when he poped back up he was about 16 out and killed me one shot. every single time i have taken either of the new tanks out it takes several shots to kill anyone but mine dies in one shot. i know where to hit most of the tanks and no matter where i hit them they stay up engine shots side shots or frontal shots they keep on rolling but one frontal shot to me and im dead there just seems something a lil messed up with them and now the firefly is perked way high and they still die 1 shot no problem from the new tanks. i mean 25 perks to take out the firefly is crazy the new tanks will be fixed soon i hope cause as of now they got alot of bs to them in my opinion

[Nemisis]

Look guys, I get one shot kills on these things at 2000yds 20% of the time, and it rarely takes more than 3 shots barring ricochets. If I can oneshot kill these new M4s with an M4A3(75) at 1500yds (which I have done), then they can't be that far off.

[jay]

the 75 die easy but i wasin a panzer and had to shoot a 76 more than five times (also a freind was shooting at same one and took FOREVER)

[Spikes]

Heh yeah 76 took 4 shots to the front full from a Tiger today at 400 yrds.

[greens]

Had a prob the other day even called the bugger a cheat <sorry bout that> well he was 30ft in front of me i shot him 2 time in front of his m4 w my perked sherman nuttin, shot him in the arse twice nuttin, shot him in the middle deflection, he had time to turn his turret 180 degrees n killed me w 1 shot. thats messed up. PERK the m4 unperk the tiger!

[Nemisis]

It is an M4A3(76)W. The W stands for wet storage. It is less likely to explode when hit, thats a fact. IDK if I buy the 4 shots from a tiger at 400yds (unless getsome was driving). There ARE some guys that will find exploits or hack the servers. NOTHING is cheat proof. AH may have a low number of them (VERY low, I can't think of more than 3 people who get regular complaints off the top of my head), but for the ones we have, seeing their name in lights is FAR more important to them than earning their kills honestly.

I killed two M4A3(76)W's, a Tiger, and a firefly at V85 in one life (took about 4 hits, 2 at extreme long range) before being killed. That doesn't say I'm a cheater, that says that I'm good at what I do, and that I'm lucky the guys shooting at me hit my tracks.

[321BAR]

I killed two M4A3(76)W's, a Tiger, and a firefly at V85 in one life (took about 4 hits, 2 at extreme long range) before being killed. That doesn't say I'm a cheater, that says that I'm good at what I do, and that I'm lucky the guys shooting at me hit my tracks.

good...or lucky

[Kenne]

yea guys at first i was skeptic, but now im convinced...some wrong with a sherm that u can hit 3 times and get no damage and my panzer gets hit once and boom.
the nu sherm is like a big M8

[Patches1]

M4a3(76)W is also known as the M4a3E8.

Some armor specs:

ARMOR PROTECTION
Armor Detail    Front    Side    Rear    Top/Bottom
Hull    50-108mm@34-90°    38mm@90°    38mm@68-80°    25mm@0°(front)
13mm@0°(rear)
Superstructure    63mm@43°    76mm@90°    -    19mm@0-7°
Turret    63mm@45-50°    63mm@77-90°    63mm@90°    25mm@0°
Mantlet    89mm@90°    -    -

Just some thoughts...

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[321BAR]

M4a3(76)W is also known as the M4a3E8.

Some armor specs:

ARMOR PROTECTION
Armor Detail    Front    Side    Rear    Top/Bottom
Hull    50-108mm@34-90°    38mm@90°    38mm@68-80°    25mm@0°(front)
13mm@0°(rear)
Superstructure    63mm@43°    76mm@90°    -    19mm@0-7°
Turret    63mm@45-50°    63mm@77-90°    63mm@90°    25mm@0°
Mantlet    89mm@90°    -    -

Just some thoughts...

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i'm sorry but i have never seen any information saying that the 76W was the Easy 8 Sherman

could you cite sources please?

[Kenne]

i'm sorry but i have never seen any information saying that the 76W was the Easy 8 Sherman

could you cite sources please?

ditto, the suspension was totally diff than our sherms...

[Nemisis]

M4A3E8 was a completely different tank. It was an official designation, and so cannot be an alias.

Kenne, please start using grammar and correct spelling. You're coming off sounding a little ignorant.

[Patches1]

Sorry Gents,

I should have checked closer. According Wikipedia (not the best source of info) there was an M4A3E4/M4A3(76)W and an M4A3E8/M4A3(76)W HVSS. I changed the text to red for the derivative I think we have. I'm sorry for yesterday's misinformation.


From Wikipedia:

US M4 Sub-Types

    * M4- Continental radial engine; welded hull; 75-mm and 105-mm versions only. Users: US, Britain, Poland, France (one vehicle). Some very late M4s had composite cast/welded hulls (cast hull front identical to M4A1 (76) W.).
          o M4(105) - Upgraded with 105 mm M4 howitzer.
          o M4(105) HVSS - M4(105) w/ HVSS.
    * M4A1 - Continental radial engine; one-piece cast hull; 75-mm and 76-mm versions built. Users: US, Britain, South Africa, France (small numbers), China
          o M4A1E4/M4A1(76)W - Upgraded with 76 mm M1 gun.
          o M4A1E8/M4A1(76)W HVSS - Upgraded with widetrack Horizontal Volute Spring Suspension (HVSS), fitted with the 76 mm M1 gun.
          o M4A1E9 - Unknown configuration, possibly an upgrade of existing M4A1s with 76 mm guns.
    * M4A2 - Diesel-powered; welded hull; 75-mm and 76-mm guns. Users: USSR (M4C), USMC, France, Britain, Poland. No US Army combat use.
          o M4A2E8/M4A2(76)W HVSS - Upgraded with widetrack Horizontal Volute Spring Suspension (HVSS), fitted with the 76mm M1 gun.
    * M4A3 - Ford GAA V-8 engine; welded hull; 75-mm, 76-mm, and 105-mm guns. Users: US, France (small numbers), Nicaragua (small numbers). The M4A3 was the preferred US Army vehicle.
          o M4A3(75) - M4A3 w/ 75mm M3 gun.
          o M4A3(105) - M4A3 w/ 105mm M4 howitzer.
          o M4A3E2 Assault Tank - postwar nickname "Jumbo"/"Cobra King" - extra armour (including 4" on front), vertical sided turret, but about 3-4 mph slower. Built with 75 mm gun but frequently re-armed by the using units with 76-mm guns. Grousers fitted to the tracks. Users: US, France (one vehicle)
          o M4A3E4/M4A3(76)W - M4A3 w/ 76mm M1 gun.
          o M4A3E8/M4A3(76)W HVSS (Easy Eight) - Upgraded with widetrack Horizontal Volute Spring Suspension (HVSS), fitted with the 76mm M1 gun. The new suspension allowed for more armor to be added.
          o M4A3E9/M4A3(105) HVSS - Upgraded with widetrack Horizontal Volute Spring Suspension (HVSS), fitted with the 105mm M4 howitzer.
    * M4A4 - Chrysler A57 engine; welded, lengthened hull; 75-mm gun only as-built. Many re-armed with British 17-pounder guns ("Firefly"). Users: Britain, France, China, Lebanon (Firefly), Nicaragua (small numbers).
    * M4A5 - No US vehicle was built with this designation; the number was meant to signify Canadian production.
    * M4A6 - Diesel engine; composite cast/welded hull lengthened similarly to the M4A4; 75-mm gun only. Only a few dozen of this variant were built and none were used in combat.