Less Expensive Spit 14

[Karnak]

The mess exists only in your imagination.  The only part of your Spit XIV description that is accurate is its climb and armament.  Everything else demonstrates your lack of familiarity with it.  The Bf109K-4 is superior in all ways other than armament vs fighters.

The Spit XIV is hardly used for a reason.  It was hardly used even when the top end free Spit was a 1942 Merlin 61 Spitfire IX for a reason.


If you add the Spit VIII's numbers to the Spit XVI's they slightly edge out the P-51D, though the K/D ratio is even worse than if you just compare the Spit XVI to the P-51D.

[froger]

the Ta-152 was unperked for this same factor. There would not be any major effect by the Ta-152 in the LWMA. although compared to the Spit14 the 152 isn't much except for the flight time.
by the way: the snail himself told me this once upon a time

agreed....

I will say this, i have had the crap kicked out of me by spit 14s above 15k so if i get close to one above the clouds i give it careful consideration.

5k or below i don't thik much of it.

I would also say that above 15k i would rather be in the 14 than the 152 head to head.

kinda hard to beat the 152 for smokin buffs with the all tater weapons platform.



froger


 

[321BAR]

agreed....

I will say this, i have had the crap kicked out of me by spit 14s above 15k so if i get close to one above the clouds i give it careful consideration.

5k or below i don't thik much of it.

I would also say that above 15k i would rather be in the 14 than the 152 head to head.

kinda hard to beat the 152 for smokin buffs with the all tater weapons platform.



froger


 

under 5k and that spit14 is a chew toy, and yeah the 152 is a tater monkey... you get shot by the Ta-152 and you KNOW you're not gonna live...

[Yarbles]

You can't mention any one of these planes and the word "perk" without mentioning all of them and discussing what a messy can of worms the entire deal is.

Which is why I would like to see its perk price halved as in its current form its too expensive in relation to other planes for example the k4 which is not perked or the Spit 8 and 16 for the same reason. Reducing the 14 to half the current perk rate would not de stabilise the game it would just provide marginally more choice imo.

My experieice flying the Spit 8 is the ki's and the LA 7 are the common force most difficult to overcome currently. The Spit 16 is aat a distinct dissadvantage to the 8 and even 9 in the tnb. The 14 is a good challenge for the 51 in its territory though the 51 still has disinct advantages as does the 14.

[RTHolmes]

you get shot by the Ta-152 and you KNOW you're not gonna live...

yeah ... in theory. yesterday I somehow managed to get 9 assists in a 152, then spoilt my run by getting my 1st kill of the sortie. no buffs, no planes with visible damage.

[Kev367th]

The 16 seems to be every where; I think it should be perked somewhat. How much combat did they really see?

Easy one to answer -
Apart from the .50 cals the XVI is identical to a Mid 1943 LF IX, and identical to a mid 1944 LF IXe.
Assuming they haven't updated the XVI to the correct Merlin 266 FM and still use the Merlin 66 FM.

So 2+ years as an LF IX, and 1 year as an LF IXe / XVI.

Many of us have wondered if there would be as many complaints about the XVI if it had been tagged instead as an LF.IXe

[321BAR]

Easy one to answer -
Apart from the .50 cals the XVI is identical to a Mid 1943 LF IX, and identical to a mid 1944 LF IXe.
Assuming they haven't updated the XVI to the correct Merlin 266 FM and still use the Merlin 66 FM.

So 2+ years as an LF IX, and 1 year as an LF IXe / XVI.

Many of us have wondered if there would be as many complaints about the XVI if it had been tagged instead as an LF.IXe

the difference between the 266 and the 66 was that the 266 was a 66 built overseas.

yeah ... in theory. yesterday I somehow managed to get 9 assists in a 152, then spoilt my run by getting my 1st kill of the sortie. no buffs, no planes with visible damage.

strange... i seem to die fast whenever matched against the 152

[Bronk]

Many of us have wondered if there would be as many complaints about the XVI if it had been tagged instead as an LF.IXe

Are you kidding? There wouldn't be enough cheese on the planet for that amount of whine.

Ohh and since it is not running on 1945 cleared boost setting we do not have a true late war spit...IMO.

TY spitfireperformance.com

[bustr]

The spit14 is an excellent deterant to the 15k+ 51D's that seem to infest the MA. Unfortunatly because it's perked, low furballs can become a bit hairy......

[Karnak]

the difference between the 266 and the 66 was that the 266 was a 66 built overseas.

The 266 has a FTH 1k above the 66's FTH.

[321BAR]

The 266 has a FTH 1k above the 66's FTH.

really? i've never heard this... could you find a source?

[redman555]

Spits a dweeb plane, conversation closed.   


-BigBOBCH

[SmokinLoon]

Spits a dweeb plane, conversation closed.   


-BigBOBCH

Obviously, you've mistaken the Spit16 with the rest of the Spitfire lineup.  Especially, the Mk's I, V, and IX.   

[redman555]

lol, all you do is turn in it.


-BigBOBCH

[Karnak]

really? i've never heard this... could you find a source?

My source was Dan or Kev. They have much larger Spitfire libraries than I do.