June FSO

[perdue3]

Just read the Designer notes and Im upset about the Spit16 replacing the Spit9. Not to mention they (allies) get a max of 48 Spit 162 and only a max of 24 Spit8's. Am I the only that sees this as a little unfair?



perdweeb

[Squire]

Its not a typo.

[BrownBaron]

Just read the Designer notes and Im upset about the Spit16 replacing the Spit9. Not to mention they (allies) get a max of 48 Spit 162 and only a max of 24 Spit8's. Am I the only that sees this as a little unfair?



perdweeb

Nope. Not just you. I don't know how the Axis is meant to compete with inferior equipment and numbers..I predict alot of 1 way sorties 

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what I don't understand is if this is late war, why is the K-4  and D-9 are excluded?

seems like it is quite one sided.

[SmokinLoon]

I too am surprised there is not a mix of Spit 9's thrown into the Spit 16 category instead of omitting them outright.        

Rest assured though, the FSO admin will make adjustments as needed for Frames 2 and 3.  

[BrownBaron]

what I don't understand is if this is late war, why is the K-4  and D-9 are excluded?

seems like it is quite one sided.

Yes, that too...

[Wildcat1]

what I don't understand is if this is late war, why is the K-4  and D-9 are excluded?

seems like it is quite one sided.

K-4's and D-9's were not yet in service at the time of D-Day, i believe.

I too am confused why the allies have 48 spixteens....

[Spikes]

I too am surprised there is not a mix of Spit 9's thrown into the Spit 16 category instead of omitting them outright.       

Rest assured though, the FSO admin will make adjustments as needed for Frames 2 and 3.   

I agree. If you are going to give Spit 16s in replacement of Spit 9e's, then we should have K4's in replacement for G10's.

[Stampf]

I agree. If you are going to give Spit 16s in replacement of Spit 9e's, then we should have K4's in replacement for G10's.

Werd.  Too many 16's for sure.  Not gonna be a long frame for alot of folks.

[grizz441]

I have to agree.  This setup is no where near balanced.  Some dedicated Axis guys will be able to make lemonade out of these lemons, but as a whole, Allies are going to dominate every single fight with guns, speed, and turnfighting performance.

[grizz441]

At FSO altitudes, greater than 20k, the Axis fastest plane is the G14.  At these altitudes, it is slower than Spit16s, Spit14s, Spit8s, P38Js, and P47D25s.  Below 8k, it is faster than these aircraft, but gets run down by the Typhoon.  Take the fact that Axis will not be able to run and regroup, and add it to the fact that allies will be sporting 5 aircraft with hispanos... Spit16s, Spit8, P38Js, Typhoons, and Mosquitoes which can all dominate the G14s and A5s in the dive, well, it goes without saying.  This is going to be a complete blood bath.  If Axis had D9's and K4s, it would be more reasonable.

[Frodo]

Its not a typo.

Could you explain the thinking and reasoning on this then?

[SmokinLoon]

At FSO altitudes, greater than 20k, the Axis fastest plane is the G14.  At these altitudes, it is slower than Spit16s, Spit14s, Spit8s, P38Js, and P47D25s.  Below 8k, it is faster than these aircraft, but gets run down by the Typhoon.  Take the fact that Axis will not be able to run and regroup, and add it to the fact that allies will be sporting 5 aircraft with hispanos... Spit16s, Spit8, P38Js, Typhoons, and Mosquitoes which can all dominate the G14s and A5s in the dive, well, it goes without saying.  This is going to be a complete blood bath.  If Axis had D9's and K4s, it would be more reasonable.

You're comparing the aircraft in dogfite vs dogfite mode, keep in mind that many of the the Allied aircraft you've mentioned will need to be used in the more traditional roles than in the MA pick-a-thon mode.  This is not one big furball fest. 

Frame 2 will be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure.

   

[grizz441]

You're comparing the aircraft in dogfite vs dogfite mode, keep in mind that many of the the Allied aircraft you've mentioned will need to be used in the more traditional roles than in the MA pick-a-thon mode.  This is not one big furball fest. 

Frame 2 will be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure.

No I'm not.  It's not even close.

[Spikes]

You're comparing the aircraft in dogfite vs dogfite mode, keep in mind that many of the the Allied aircraft you've mentioned will need to be used in the more traditional roles than in the MA pick-a-thon mode.  This is not one big furball fest. 

Frame 2 will be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure.

   

All of our planes are either out performed, or out gunned, or both.