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Offline Pongo

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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 10:48:02 PM »
HE will detonate and will kill a tank. needs to land on top and from a hi arc. killed a couple Panzers w/ the LTV4 howitzer and once with a T34 76 (the HE was all I had).

never really expected to get a kill, was mostly trying to harass 'em.

Thats how HT got started. watch yourself.

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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 11:09:29 PM »
But why does HE bounce?  And why do rockets bounce?  Shouldn't they... explode?  After all, they are HE.

Another dreaded case of the dud?  Or a defective fuze?

I just figure if it hits something it should go boom!!


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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 06:56:28 PM »
Likely its so as not to confuse the crap out of people. An explotion might make people think they got a kill where the tank just up and explodes instead of having its turret get blown off.
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 07:13:53 PM »
Good day,

I have noticed that HE rounds of all descriptions have little or no effect on tanks.  Upon closer inspection and many attacks done off line I could actually see that they were not detonating on impact.  Instead the rounds would bounce off and explode when they hit the ground.

I tested this in an extreme and easy to duplicate scenario and was greatly surprised by the result.   

Off line, loaded a T34/85.
Drove it over to a Tiger Tank.
Set up my shot so that I was as close to 90 degrees of deflection as possible on its flank.
Fired repeatedly at very very close range, (about 10 yards )
As I fired I started receiving the sound effect of getting hit.  (This required a great deal of aim adjustment after each shot to get the right angle.)
Continuing to fire I eventually blew my own tracks off.

The HE rounds were failing to explode on the target.  The round was bouncing back and hitting my tank.  Then the HE round would explode doing damage to ME!  I have a film of this really strange HE round behavior but I do not know how to post it with this report

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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 08:42:14 PM »
Which in itself strikes me as pretty shonky. I've been blown up by near-misses from those things.
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 09:45:49 PM »
You sure it wasn't a bomb? If it doesn't hit you (and you aren't in a jeep or M3), you'll be fine.
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 09:48:18 PM »
What seems to be a near-miss on your FE can be a full hit on enemy FE.
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 04:07:27 PM »
Ah. That might be it.

I'm sure it wasn't a bomb - very shallow apporach most times, no whistle from a falling bomb.
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2010, 07:02:23 AM »
Something I want to see is someone getting kill shot on a friendly airplane by bouncing a round off an enemy tank :D.

I've fired a 30mm at the tail of a hostile plane, and the splash damage from my own 30mm round pilot killed me...


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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2010, 08:59:44 AM »
I've fired a 30mm at the tail of a hostile plane, and the splash damage from my own 30mm round pilot killed me...



Hm. I've killed a few planes by hitting the ocean underneath them with taters, but never caused damage to my own plane with them...how close were you?
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2010, 09:36:26 AM »
done it strafing hangars, town buildings and especially slashing attacks on buffs. :(
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2010, 12:32:53 PM »
Get this, I've chased a plane through the VH, and kill shot myself on a friendly tank camping it.
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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2010, 05:18:12 AM »
Hm. I've killed a few planes by hitting the ocean underneath them with taters, but never caused damage to my own plane with them...how close were you?

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Re: High Explosive rounds do not detonate on targets.
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2010, 05:31:51 AM »
About two inches short of a radical colonoscapy.

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