16 yr old teen lost at sea

[Grind]

Rescuers paid by?

That's right. Tax payers.

How about instead of wasting millions of $$ to rescue spoiled children of stupid parents we spend that money on [cleaning up the gulf].

I see your point.  I just had to put that in there.

 

[pwnorris]

Speaking of payment.

It seems that the parents are responsible for paying for their daughter's rescue, estimated to be $300,000.

It makes sense that someone pays.  the French fishing boat is spending their money to get her to a port.  They are not fishing, so they are losing money.  Besides, I heard that the French Captain went overboard during the rescue attempt (his crew fished him out of the water before he was injured).

The parents are not sure how they are going to pay for all of this.

I just hope this gives the next group who tries this something to think about.

[Penguin]

How about a live video feed from the boat to the world?  Three cameras: One on top of the cabin, facing backwards, one inside the cabin, and one inside of the bow, beside the keel.  A GPS transponder would help as well.

-Penguin

[bagrat]

Right, but, again, what they are driving makes a BIG difference.

Would you rather have a two week driver behind the wheels of a WRX, or a Tempo?

lol i knew this guy who totaled a WRX after only having it like a week showing off for the girls, his parents bought him another more new o9 model WRX as punishment....

[RTHolmes]

Speaking of payment.

It seems that the parents are responsible for paying for their daughter's rescue, estimated to be $300,000.

It makes sense that someone pays.  the French fishing boat is spending their money to get her to a port.  They are not fishing, so they are losing money.  Besides, I heard that the French Captain went overboard during the rescue attempt (his crew fished him out of the water before he was injured).

The parents are not sure how they are going to pay for all of this.

I just hope this gives the next group who tries this something to think about.

so she just arrived on Reunion Island.

"According to the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea, any ship of any nation in the vicinity of a distress call is required to render assistance at no cost." - wikipedia.

The search alone cost the australian taxpayers AUS$300,000. Rescue cost at this point unknown (although it almost cost the French skipper his life) but 6 days for the Ile de la Reunion fishing boat to take her to the Kerguelen Islands cannot be cheap, followed by 8 days on the French patrol boat Osiris to ferry her to Reunion Island which also will not be cheap. Add in the cost of the Global Express jet to coordinate the rescue.

That is one massive bill, to which her family are obliged to contribute ... nothing.

Her mother suggested that the bill be sent to the US government (even though they have no obligation to pay for it either.) I imagine that as many of you are US taxpayers you might have ... um ... opinions about this.

You might think at this point that that the family had leeched enough from the taxpayers of foreign nations to subsidise their little stunt ... but no.

Not content to just get their daughter back, they decided they wanted the boat back as well, so they set up a public appeal to raise the US$130,000 required to salvage it. bewilderingly they managed to raise (ie. blag) $2460 from ... well I dont know who would be dumb enough to throw money in their direction.

Abby is now planning to write a book. I can guess how much of the proceeds will be used to compensate all of the people who have paid for her little trip.

despite the volume of typing above I'm ... speechless 

[lulu]

I would sent an U-Boat to help better!  


It  seems as a matter of fact that no adolescent can survive without help by his parents.
So this trip is totally a bad experiment confirmation.

[Tr1gg22]

Lame ..Once upon a time Men married and had sex with 12 year old girls, Dosent make it right for NOW now DOES IT?  Times change and kids are kids longer today then from Once upon a time.

KAM

+10

[Maverick]

AFAIAC she is a minor and the parents are responsible for the actions of their minor children, particularly when the parents facilitated the stupid stunt. I say bill them, especially if in fact the mother did say the bill should be sent to the US government.
 

[DREDIOCK]

so she just arrived on Reunion Island.

"According to the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea, any ship of any nation in the vicinity of a distress call is required to render assistance at no cost." - wikipedia.

The search alone cost the australian taxpayers AUS$300,000. Rescue cost at this point unknown (although it almost cost the French skipper his life) but 6 days for the Ile de la Reunion fishing boat to take her to the Kerguelen Islands cannot be cheap, followed by 8 days on the French patrol boat Osiris to ferry her to Reunion Island which also will not be cheap. Add in the cost of the Global Express jet to coordinate the rescue.

That is one massive bill, to which her family are obliged to contribute ... nothing.

Her mother suggested that the bill be sent to the US government (even though they have no obligation to pay for it either.) I imagine that as many of you are US taxpayers you might have ... um ... opinions about this.

You might think at this point that that the family had leeched enough from the taxpayers of foreign nations to subsidise their little stunt ... but no.

Not content to just get their daughter back, they decided they wanted the boat back as well, so they set up a public appeal to raise the US$130,000 required to salvage it. bewilderingly they managed to raise (ie. blag) $2460 from ... well I dont know who would be dumb enough to throw money in their direction.

Abby is now planning to write a book. I can guess how much of the proceeds will be used to compensate all of the people who have paid for her little trip.

despite the volume of typing above I'm ... speechless  

This is no worse then any of a hundreds of other rescues nations perform. Sometimes. just sometimes mega experienced sailors get in trouble too and need to be rescued.

The only thing unique about this story is the girls age. And thats it. Period. Same thing has happened to other older and more experienced sailors. Some of which didnt survive.
And she was obviously experienced and skilled enough to accomplish what she did and survive her ordeal. Something quite a few older ,more experienced sailors cant say.

So all of you,stop flipping whining about her trip, her rescue and how much it cost whatever government. Its irrelevant. All these nations live under the same agreement. For anyone that puts out to sea regardless of age.
Just be glad they do. Its one of the few damn things nations do co operate on.

[DREDIOCK]

http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/news.asp?key=4179

1998 Sydney Hobart Yacht Race Remembered

Threatening skies complemented a sombre mood as skippers, crews and volunteers gathered together dockside to pay tribute to the six sailors who have lost their lives during the Sydney to Hobart ocean racing classic ten years ago.

Joining them were family members of Bruce Guy, skipper of the ill-fated Tasmanian yacht Business Post Naiad, and crew member, Phillip Skeggs.  Both perished during the storm that engulfed the yachts off Gabo Island in the 1998 race.

Matt Allen, Commodore of the CYCA, recalled that 10 years ago a severe storm resulted in the biggest ever maritime rescue conducted in Australian waters.  25 aircraft, six vessels and approximately 1,000 search personnel braved gale force winds and dangerous seas to rescue 55 sailors.  5 yachts sank and only 44 of the 115 starters make the finish to Hobart.

[grizz441]

This is no worse then any of a hundreds of other rescues nations perform. Sometimes. just sometimes mega experienced sailors get in trouble too and need to be rescued.

The only thing unique about this story is the girls age. And thats it. Period. Same thing has happened to other older and more experienced sailors. Some of which didnt survive.
And she was obviously experienced and skilled enough to accomplish what she did and survive her ordeal. Something quite a few older ,more experienced sailors cant say.

So all of you,stop flipping whining about her trip, her rescue and how much it cost whatever government. Its irrelevant. All these nations live under the same agreement. For anyone that puts out to sea regardless of age.
Just be glad they do. Its one of the few damn things nations do co operate on.

So why did she have to attempt it at the age of 16 and not wait until she was a little older hmm?? In a dangerous part of the year nonetheless hmm? 

[DREDIOCK]

So why did she have to attempt it at the age of 16 and not wait until she was a little older hmm?? In a dangerous part of the year nonetheless hmm? 

If she has the skill set. And she very obviously does. Why not?

Cause she's 16?  Nonsense. Females mature faster then males. Maturity wise a 16 year old is as mature as a male at 18. Yet a male at 18 (or female) can join the military and go fight in a war. Also a slightly dangerous activity.

And while an 18 may think they are an adult. There is a world of difference in the maturity level of most 18 year old to most 21 year olds. Which is a time when most actually start acting like adults.  Between 16 and 18..not so much

And this "Well 16 year old back then were different then 16 year olds now" is also nonsense. A 16 year old is a 16 year old. Always has been alwways will be. Its our attitudes that have changed

And why do we feel the need to try and dictate how other people raise their children?

Nobody knows their child better then the parent. Im sure they didnt just say . "Hey, you want to sail the world. Here's a boat, go do it." without first taking into consideration is she had the maturity, or the skill set to do so.
Both, again which is made totally obvious by the mere fact she made it as far as she did. endured the difficulties she did, and had the wits about here to realize she was in trouble, take the appropriate measures and survive.

[lulu]

Not a properly a skill question.
The so called not mature people cannot decide in autonomy way.
This is why we take care of them offering rules to choose
until they start to build their one and to challenge all the consequences.

I agree that sea dangerous can be less dangerous then those of a bunch of people can 'offer'.

It is also true that the age from which a person becomes mature is influeced by a certain amount
of uncertainity (something between 18 and 28 as to me).

Two years of difference can be mathematically few but psychologically a lots.

And, just for fun, what hell do a 16 years old girl or a boy in the middle of a ocean???

Let's have some fun with others fellows!!  

 

[grizz441]

If she has the skill set. And she very obviously does. Why not?

Cause she's 16?  Nonsense. Females mature faster then males. Maturity wise a 16 year old is as mature as a male at 18. Yet a male at 18 (or female) can join the military and go fight in a war. Also a slightly dangerous activity.

And while an 18 may think they are an adult. There is a world of difference in the maturity level of most 18 year old to most 21 year olds. Which is a time when most actually start acting like adults.  Between 16 and 18..not so much

And this "Well 16 year old back then were different then 16 year olds now" is also nonsense. A 16 year old is a 16 year old. Always has been alwways will be. Its our attitudes that have changed

And why do we feel the need to try and dictate how other people raise their children?

Nobody knows their child better then the parent. Im sure they didnt just say . "Hey, you want to sail the world. Here's a boat, go do it." without first taking into consideration is she had the maturity, or the skill set to do so.
Both, again which is made totally obvious by the mere fact she made it as far as she did. endured the difficulties she did, and had the wits about here to realize she was in trouble, take the appropriate measures and survive.

Would she be a better sailor at the age of 16 or 21 with 5 more years experience?  She is a good sailor for 16 yes, that isn't the point.  The point is, the motives behind the trip were to set a record/become famous/get a reality tv show/write a book.  That's why it HAD to be done at this young age and as others have said, this dangerous time of year to attempt it.  Don't you see the unnecessary risk that she/her parents exposed her to just to set some silly record?  If it was about sailing around the world, she could have done it at 18, or 21, and been a master, instead of just a good sailor at 16.

[Gh0stFT]

better luck next time, but pls at the age of 15 or less! imagine teh $ !!!11