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Offline Wildcat1

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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #105 on: June 28, 2010, 10:57:50 PM »
This statement is an indictment against the whole of the 8th Air Force, and the country of the United States who sent them to war.  I ask you sir, (and I pronounce it cur) what gives you the right to say that this command structure set out to commit an atrocity?  Dresden represented a strategic point, that was rightly bombed. 

Please and in depth, explain your reasoning so as to be further constituted as nothing other than a worthless and ill-educated troll.  If you ask why I might have the right to ask you this, I am asking on the behalf of my great uncle who was lost on this raid.

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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #106 on: June 29, 2010, 06:19:42 AM »
See Rule #6
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #107 on: June 29, 2010, 06:31:22 AM »
See Rule #6
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #108 on: June 29, 2010, 06:39:47 AM »
Oh the irony! :lol
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #109 on: June 29, 2010, 08:12:11 AM »
Oh the irony! :lol

i just dont get it..... why do you kids take advantage of your freedom this way? why do you criticise the very men who died to give that freedom to you? its just wrong, it's whats wrong with our country....
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2010, 09:06:35 AM »
Wow... Been a while since anyone has called me a kid. :)

So, just because they fought on our side they're automatically absolved for any wrongdoing? Just because it was our air force that burned down Dresden and not the Luftwaffe it is ok?

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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2010, 02:34:08 PM »
If peace is the natural order of things, why are we always fighting and working to achieve it?  If one is hungry and wants food, they must plant a seed.  To plant a seed you need a fertile place to grow it, so you have to pull a weed out of the fertile ground and kill it in order to make room.  If you want your plant to grow you must water it, so you take action and motion to supply your plant water.  When your plant bears its fruit and it's time to harvest, do you take action and go and harvest it, wait for the fruit to fall off on its own and then attempt to recover it before it rots from the dirt and worms, or wait for someone/thing else to happen by your plant first with its fruit and harvest it for themselves?


You must live in a young or privelaged life to think that sitting back and doing nothing brings about more peace than if you proactively work to make it happen.  Hold out both your hands and in one hand hope for your dreams to come true and then hold out your other hand and hope for nothing and see which hand you end up more with quicker.  When you finally get too hungry or bored of sitting there with open and empty hands you'll join the rest of us who get up everyday to go out into the world to make a difference and work for a living to make our dreams and peace happen.

Peace in the sense that nothing moves.  I was trying to explain that without humans (assuming we aren't involved with outer space) there would be no war.  Actually, if nobody (assuming that nobody means absolutely nobody) on this planet moved an inch, how could there be war?

In a quote from a another poster here "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity".  In essence, the more you fight, the less peace there is. 

However, my idea holds up only in the theoretical sense, for if nobody moved an inch, we'd all be dead due to lack of water.  I accept the idea of defending borders, but a preemptive war should only be pursued if the other option is demise. 

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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #112 on: July 18, 2010, 03:15:07 PM »
There will always be war, even if all humans die off. War is an integral part of nature... Be it between human tribes or ant hives.
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #113 on: July 18, 2010, 03:20:49 PM »
you know what

Never mind
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #114 on: July 18, 2010, 05:48:40 PM »
i used to have 2 dvds of a B17 documentary like movie and one for B24's (they got scratched up/broken) and when ever i would see the planes snap in half on fire or just fall down to earth it always (and still does) send a chill down my spine an gives me goosebumps just got to remember when ever u see videos like that,that there are servicemen dieing in those planes  :(
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Re: WWII Allied Bombers, a chilling reminder
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2010, 01:20:42 PM »
I watched that video too, same effect.

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Re: Nothing to see here, move along
« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2010, 01:38:48 PM »
No point in continuing to edit this thread.
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