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Offline Jebus

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Putin Says we are better than you
« on: June 18, 2010, 10:47:10 PM »
Putin Stated that there new fighter plane is better than anything the U.S has in there inventory! 

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/18/putin-boasts-russias-new-fighter-jet-better-planes/?test=latestnews

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Offline Grind

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 10:56:25 PM »
I guess there is only one way to find out... Probably never know for sure.

I wonder if one could atomize the oil in the Gulf of Mexico right now with a huge bomb and then ignite it.  Would the sky catch on fire? or would it turn into a huge fuel/air explosion?  Both?

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 11:05:30 PM »
Quote from: Jebus on June 18, 2010, 10:47:10 PM
Putin Stated that there new fighter plane is better than anything the U.S has in there inventory! 

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/18/putin-boasts-russias-new-fighter-jet-better-planes/?test=latestnews

 :bolt:



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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 11:36:33 PM »
I really just don't get all of the Cold War-esque rhetoric. 
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 11:38:55 PM »
Quote from: Stoney on June 18, 2010, 11:36:33 PM
I really just don't get all of the Cold War-esque rhetoric. 

Russians like to be reminded they have a strong leader. Think of it like a station check that they're still relevant on the world scene. 
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010, 12:18:44 AM »
Quote from: Grind on June 18, 2010, 10:56:25 PM
I guess there is only one way to find out... Probably never know for sure.

We'll see.  :noid
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 12:21:11 AM »
What would they have if we didn't release info on the F22? Heh. If they wanted to copy the F22 we should have just sold it to them.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 12:26:07 AM »
Quote from: Jebus on June 18, 2010, 10:47:10 PM
Putin Stated that there new fighter plane is better than anything the U.S has in there inventory! 

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/18/putin-boasts-russias-new-fighter-jet-better-planes/?test=latestnews

 :bolt:



of-course he is going to say that, it's a competition.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 12:27:39 AM »
Quote from: Spikes on June 19, 2010, 12:21:11 AM
What would they have if we didn't release info on the F22? Heh. If they wanted to copy the F22 we should have just sold it to them.

I'm not defending them and I'm not saying they did or they did not, but you don't know that.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 07:50:22 AM »
i dont know why Russia has gone public with this........ it just starts up the Arms Race again.

now that we know this plae will be around by 2015, we have five years to build a seriously upgraded version of the F-22 or even an entirely new plane. anyone smell war on the horizon, or is it just me?

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 08:49:28 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 08:59:19 AM »
The only problem is, Russia only thinks they know everything that's in our inventory.  :t

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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2010, 09:20:48 AM »
Quote from: Wildcat1 on June 19, 2010, 07:50:22 AM
i dont know why Russia has gone public with this........ it just starts up the Arms Race again.



Because they obviously think they can win an arms race this time, with this country already mired in horrific national debt. 
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 10:29:42 AM »
We were in a similar situation in the late 70s. It all turned around in the 80s. There is hope.
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Re: Putin Says we are better than you
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 10:39:19 AM »
"Putin said the plane would cost up to three times less than similar aircraft in the West and could remain in service for 30 to 35 years with upgrades, according to the report."

Analysis:  We cut corners on safety, quality, and reliability in order to build more of them than the West, in a shorter period of time.  "Upgrades" will be released as soon as the design specs of Western upgrades can be obtained,  reverse engineered and retro-fitted into the airframe.   :D

Quote from: Grind on June 18, 2010, 10:56:25 PM
I guess there is only one way to find out... Probably never know for sure.

That all depends on who they sell / lend them to.
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