Author Topic: LCD Monitors  (Read 1529 times)

Offline Pudgie

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1280
LCD Monitors
« on: June 26, 2010, 04:25:44 PM »
Hi Folks,

I am happy to announce that my old trusty ViewSonic 21PS monitor is finally showing signs of it's age.

It's starting to fail!
 :D

So in the meantime I have pulled my 470 from my box (just to be on the safe side) & am in the market for a good 24" LCD monitor for gaming. Am using my "old" 9800 GTX+ vid card so that I can still use this thing for the moment.

Am looking for recommendations here.

All input will be greatly appreciated!

 :salute

Win 10 Home 64, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, GSkill FlareX 32Gb DDR4 3200 4x8Gb, XFX Radeon RX 6900X 16Gb, Samsung 950 Pro 512Gb NVMe PCI-E SSD (boot), Samsung 850 Pro 128Gb SATA SSD (pagefile), Creative SoundBlaster X7 DAC-AMP, Intel LAN, SeaSonic PRIME Gold 850W, all CLWC'd

Offline Kazaa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8371
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 04:40:04 PM »
Price range is always nice to know.



"If you learn from defeat, you haven't really lost."

Offline Pudgie

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1280
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 07:01:30 PM »
$0-$400
Win 10 Home 64, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, GSkill FlareX 32Gb DDR4 3200 4x8Gb, XFX Radeon RX 6900X 16Gb, Samsung 950 Pro 512Gb NVMe PCI-E SSD (boot), Samsung 850 Pro 128Gb SATA SSD (pagefile), Creative SoundBlaster X7 DAC-AMP, Intel LAN, SeaSonic PRIME Gold 850W, all CLWC'd

Offline Pudgie

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1280
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 09:43:25 PM »
After reading on these I think I'll be looking for an IPS monitor so the price will go up.

I think I can handle around $800.00.

 :)
Win 10 Home 64, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, GSkill FlareX 32Gb DDR4 3200 4x8Gb, XFX Radeon RX 6900X 16Gb, Samsung 950 Pro 512Gb NVMe PCI-E SSD (boot), Samsung 850 Pro 128Gb SATA SSD (pagefile), Creative SoundBlaster X7 DAC-AMP, Intel LAN, SeaSonic PRIME Gold 850W, all CLWC'd

Offline Tigger29

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2568
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 10:04:38 PM »
Holy waste of money, Batman!  Unless IPS is something extraordinary that I'm not aware of...  Do you need this for professional reasons?

Offline Pudgie

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1280
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 10:10:49 PM »
Looking at an HP ZR24w 5ms S-IPS panel LCD monitor

$529.95 on Newegg.

Anybody using 1 of these?
Win 10 Home 64, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, GSkill FlareX 32Gb DDR4 3200 4x8Gb, XFX Radeon RX 6900X 16Gb, Samsung 950 Pro 512Gb NVMe PCI-E SSD (boot), Samsung 850 Pro 128Gb SATA SSD (pagefile), Creative SoundBlaster X7 DAC-AMP, Intel LAN, SeaSonic PRIME Gold 850W, all CLWC'd

Offline Ghosth

  • AH Training Corps (retired)
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8497
      • http://332nd.org
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 10:17:05 PM »
I'm happy as can be with a Samsung 23" that cost me 200$ and that was before the christmas sales hit.

Certainly no "need" to spend more than 250$ for a good 23 - 34" monitor with reasonable refresh rates.

Offline SIK1

  • AH Training Corps
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3719
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 10:43:26 PM »
Looking at an HP ZR24w 5ms S-IPS panel LCD monitor

$529.95 on Newegg.

Anybody using 1 of these?

For about the same money you can have an 32" lcd hdtv that will double as a monitor.
444th Air Mafia since Air Warrior
Proudly flying with VF-17

"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG54

Offline Kazaa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8371
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 04:36:55 AM »
Looking at an HP ZR24w 5ms S-IPS panel LCD monitor

$529.95 on Newegg.

Anybody using 1 of these?

You need to understand that IPS panel LCD monitors are not built for gaming in mind but rather CAD work. Their input lag is normally unaceptable unless they have a game mode of sorts. (anything below 14ms input lag is acceptable, do not confuse this with pixel response time) Be aware that manufactures do not tell you the input lag of their products so you'll have to find an online review which tests for it.

The new backlit LED monitors are just starting to pour of production and I would defo recommend them for sure. I have just a cheap backlit LED BenQ G2420HDBL and the image quality for a fast TN panel is rather amazing, more then I'll ever need.

If you have enough GPU power to push 120FPS then I would recommend you look for a monitor which has a refresh rate to match (120hz) over an LED backlit panel. Sorry, your still using a 9800 GTX GPU so please ignore this paragraph.

Here's what I'm currently looking at. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1263457115 and I can't wait to see the review, fingers cross it's good.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 05:30:34 AM by Kazaa »



"If you learn from defeat, you haven't really lost."

Offline Kazaa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8371
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 04:38:06 AM »



"If you learn from defeat, you haven't really lost."

Offline RTHolmes

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8260
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 04:43:20 AM »
Looking at an HP ZR24w 5ms S-IPS panel LCD monitor

$529.95 on Newegg.

Anybody using 1 of these?

I have a ZR22w sitting in its box waiting to be unpacked, I'll let you know how it performs with AH when i get a chance to set it up later this week. iirc the ZR24w has slightly better response than the 22, so if the 22 is ok you should be fine with the 24. :)
71 (Eagle) Squadron

What most of us want to do is simply shoot stuff and look good doing it - Chilli

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15724
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 10:49:00 AM »
Damn dude...buy a cheaper one and buy me one too with the money you saved! :)
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline cattb

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1163
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2010, 01:09:07 PM »
I have a samsung syncmaster t220 which I have been happy with, has 2ms. For what I paid for this, now you can get a 24 inch and still save money.
:Salute Easy8 EEK GUS Betty

Offline Pudgie

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1280
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2010, 04:52:35 PM »
You need to understand that IPS panel LCD monitors are not built for gaming in mind but rather CAD work. Their input lag is normally unaceptable unless they have a game mode of sorts. (anything below 14ms input lag is acceptable, do not confuse this with pixel response time) Be aware that manufactures do not tell you the input lag of their products so you'll have to find an online review which tests for it.

The new backlit LED monitors are just starting to pour of production and I would defo recommend them for sure. I have just a cheap backlit LED BenQ G2420HDBL and the image quality for a fast TN panel is rather amazing, more then I'll ever need.

If you have enough GPU power to push 120FPS then I would recommend you look for a monitor which has a refresh rate to match (120hz) over an LED backlit panel. Sorry, your still using a 9800 GTX GPU so please ignore this paragraph.

Here's what I'm currently looking at. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1263457115 and I can't wait to see the review, fingers cross it's good.

I have an EVGA GTX 470 SC vid card. I took it out of my box & put in this EVGA 9800 GTX+ vid card to use to look for a new monitor in the meantime (just in case this CRT fails while I'm doing this, it's my "sacrificial lamb" so to speak).

Thanks for mentioning the 120Hz spec. I believe my GTX 470 SC can handle that w/o issue.

I'll add that to my specs list.

 :D :salute
Win 10 Home 64, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, GSkill FlareX 32Gb DDR4 3200 4x8Gb, XFX Radeon RX 6900X 16Gb, Samsung 950 Pro 512Gb NVMe PCI-E SSD (boot), Samsung 850 Pro 128Gb SATA SSD (pagefile), Creative SoundBlaster X7 DAC-AMP, Intel LAN, SeaSonic PRIME Gold 850W, all CLWC'd

Offline Tigger29

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2568
Re: LCD Monitors
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 06:05:08 PM »
I've never heard of a monitor taking out a video card, but with a 470 I don't blame you for being cautious.

Seriously though.. save yourself a big chuck of change and don't worry about IPS displays.  They are nice if you use them for photo editing, etc where you need the colors to be absolutely perfect... but they aren't designed for gaming.  Some people will make it sound like normal LCD monitors are HORRIBLE with colors, but that's really not the case at all.  The very slight color variances don't even begin to take away from how great the picture is otherwise.