Self-proppeled guns/Tank Killers.

[xavrikx]

M18
M10
SU-122
Jagdpanzer
Jagdtiger
StugIII
SU-85
Archer
blah blah blah,

I think we need them.

[bravoa8]

+1

[AWwrgwy]

Breeds of dogs:

Dachshund
Labrador Retriever
Doberman Pincer
Maltese
Basenji
German Shepherd Dog
Affen Pincer
Chinese Crested
Scottish Terrier


wrongway

[Rino]

     Do we need those too? 

[Void]

+1

[Nemisis]

Here is a revised list for ya; as a near exclusive GV'er, I feel this would help more than the origional list:


Stug III ausf G (free)
Jagdpanzer IV L48 (free)
SdKfz 251/22 (free)
Hetzer (free)
Marder III (free)
M18 (free)

Jagdpanzer IV L70 (50 perk base price)
Jagdpanther (70 perk base price)
Nashorn (5 perk base prices; the damn thing has about 30mm of armor on the front)
Su-85 (5 perk base price)
Archer (10 perk base price)
M36 (50 perk base price)


Just estimates of the price of course.

[Rino]

     A few years back I had an interesting conversation with a former 251 crewman.  He said the problem
with mounting a large AT gun on a halftrack is that you garnered attention from vehicles that yours just
couldn't handle.  Like an 8 year old sucker punching a prize fighter.  Sure sometimes you get a lucky punch
in, but good night Irene when they retaliate  

[Nemisis]

Which is why when/if we get the 251/22, this will be my formula for survival:

1) find good ambush spot
2) find good exit route
3) kill enemy tank
4) run like hell
5) land kills


And personally, I have enough confidence in my gunnery that I feel safe taking on 3-4 guys at once. I can kill/turret them fast enough that I usually make it away with 1-2 hits at max.

[E25280]

Su-85 (5 perk base price)

Same gun and chassis as the T-34/85, but without a turret . . . I wouldn't expect it to be perked if it was added.

[xavrikx]

Happy to see so many people with me on this, however I think a Panther would be nice, or also a heavy allied tank so as...

KV-85
Churchhill
Persing

Or seeing that we have so many allied medium tanks, why not add a bit more flavor to the Axis? Such as...

Panther
Puma(( I know it's not a tank, but it'd be damn fun to recon in this thing with that big ol' gun ^^))

[BrownBaron]

Expecting 321Bar's arrival in 3..........2............1.... ....

[Vadjan-Sama]

Same gun and chassis as the T-34/85, but without a turret . . . I wouldn't expect it to be perked if it was added.

Not really, only a short production run were made with that gun mostly of the T34-85 were made with the ZiS-S-53 85 mm gun (im not sure wich one we have), but the SU-85 was a lil more faster (1km/h lol) and is smaller than the T-34, was a great anti-tank gun so should be lil perked (highly mobile and well armored, this one can kill Tigers and Phanters from high range shoots)

[Nemisis]

That you say it can kill a tiger or panther from "high range" proves you know nothing about this. The 85 just gives ricochets out past 1600yds or so. And seeing as the Tiger or Panther could kill one out past this just means that its at an even greater disadvantage.

I say it should have a 5 perk base price because it's smaller (easier to hide and it makes a smaller target), can kill a tiger with some consistency out to 1000yds or so, and because it has good armor.

[E25280]

Not really, only a short production run were made with that gun mostly of the T34-85 were made with the ZiS-S-53 85 mm gun (im not sure wich one we have), but the SU-85 was a lil more faster (1km/h lol) and is smaller than the T-34, was a great anti-tank gun so should be lil perked (highly mobile and well armored, this one can kill Tigers and Phanters from high range shoots)

From what I've seen, there was really no difference between the ZiS-S-53 and the earlier guns.  At least nothing in terms of performance in the game.  Simplified and cheaper to manufacture, nothing more.

[Vadjan-Sama]

That you say it can kill a tiger or panther from "high range" proves you know nothing about this. The 85 just gives ricochets out past 1600yds or so. And seeing as the Tiger or Panther could kill one out past this just means that its at an even greater disadvantage.

Well, Like I said I don't know wich gun we have in our T-34-85 but im talking about the SU-85 in RL, read a lil about it and you will see by your self, was an amazing anti-tank vehicle

And yes E25280, but think about it... we are talking about the game that an m4-76 can make a lot more ricochets than an T34-76/85 (camping I could kill a T-34-85 with 2 hits and need 3-4 to kill a M4-76, same range in the same spot), my max on that one was 19 richochets in an m4-76 from an Firefly, and I got killed with 1 hit. (long range shoots)