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P38 ord loadout
« on: June 27, 2010, 11:33:52 AM »
I was reading Wikipedia on the 38s this morning and seen that the Lightnings could carry 2x500 or 2x250 bombs on the outer hardpoints. Also noticed the the inter hardpoints could carry up to 6x500,6x200 or even 2x2000 LBers.

I wondering why we don't have that capability in the game.



Also, does anyone else besides me think the pilot wounds are a little TOO easy to get in the 38s? :headscratch:
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 12:50:21 PM »
     I am sure guppy will be along soon to tell you that it was a field mod or something  :D
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 01:37:33 PM »
It was a field mod... they could carry massive loads, utilizing sway bards but it was all done in the field.

As for pilot wounds, yea, you tend to get used to that. We have had numerous threads about it before, Murdr posted some nice pics of cockpit armor placement to back up the claims as well.

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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 01:41:43 PM »
I was reading Wikipedia on the 38s this morning

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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 02:09:26 PM »
Show on "inner" and "outer" hardpoint from the factory on a P-38.


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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 02:36:01 PM »
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well us noobs have to start somewhere. besides i'm just looking for basic information for right now. i know who to talk to when i get to the advanced stuff....but that's a ways off.  :salute
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 03:42:28 PM »
The "outer hard points" were almost exclusively used for the rocket trees on the late J and the L models.
The inner hard points were rarely used with massive 2K# bombs, but usually with much less.
The L model is already enough of an ordnance dump truck as it is, there's no need to make it worse with "field modifications".


Yes, the P-38 is the king of pilot wounds for the most part, it's pretty much a pilot wound magnet.
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 05:46:05 PM »
Yes, the P-38 is the king of pilot wounds for the most part, it's pretty much a pilot wound magnet.
I don't think it is the P-38.  I think it is a trait of any fighter without an engine block in front of the pilot, and possibly some bombers too.  Certainly I notice it in the Mossie.
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 07:08:23 PM »
I don't think it is the P-38.  I think it is a trait of any fighter without an engine block in front of the pilot, and possibly some bombers too.  Certainly I notice it in the Mossie.

The vast majority of my pilot wounds comes when I'm looking over my shoulder behind me in the P-38.

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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 07:11:09 PM »
I can only count the times I've been in a Mossie on one hand, so I can't speak to that. But I can tell you in my experience flying a 110, it's very rare for me to get a pilot would. Yet in a 38 it seems I get a pilot wound every other sortie.  :frown:
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 08:44:02 PM »
The vast majority of my pilot wounds comes when I'm looking over my shoulder behind me in the P-38.

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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 10:14:38 PM »
Pilot wounds in the 38 seem pretty common to me. But I guess you get used to it.
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 03:50:32 AM »
Pilot wounds in the 38 seem pretty common to me. But I guess you get used to it.


Can;t be any more common than the 109's oil/coolant/fuel leaks, can it?
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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 08:57:14 AM »
Can;t be any more common than the 109's oil/coolant/fuel leaks, can it?


There was a time when we fooled around with loosely keeping track of it. Some were seeing pilot wounds as often as 1 of every 2 or 3 instances of damage. I recorded a few flights where the film showed it to be nearly impossible for a pilot wound to happen, and when I landed, a thorough scan of every inch of the cockpit showed not a single hole or crack visible anywhere, yet I had a pilot wound.

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Re: P38 ord loadout
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 01:25:26 PM »
The inner hard points were rarely used with massive 2K# bombs, but usually with much less.
The L model is already enough of an ordnance dump truck as it is, there's no need to make it worse with "field modifications".

I think it would be fun to get someone in a "droop snoot" and a flight of Lightnings with 2k bombs for a raid.  Drop a heavy duty load on a field for town, then jump into the furball.

Maybe set it so that the 2000 pounders are only available as part of a mission when there is at least one droop snoot included.
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