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Offline Rino

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2010, 03:07:00 PM »
The Battle of Ima-Maroon near what was then Formasa in the PTO.


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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2010, 08:16:02 PM »
The Battle of Ima-Maroon near what was then Formasa in the PTO.


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Crap I forgot it was done very often in the pto.  they would send a couple of thousand p38's land troops near the designated target area then they would provide air cover 'till the objective was secured. 

Dont you always bring up the point that this or that airplane should not be added because only 3 1/2 to 7 1/4 airplanes were built or were not as widely used in the war?  I mean I am pretty sure submarines or pt boats transported more troops into combat than the p38.  having a p38 as a troops transport?  I mean dont you think that pod should better be used to add some ice, tequila, lime and salt, do a couple of high g turns while providing air cover for the goon then once the base is secured land near the town and provide refreshments to the troops that just destroyed the map room with an intense hand-to-hand fight? 

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2010, 08:29:12 PM »

Crap I forgot it was done very often in the pto.  they would send a couple of thousand p38's land troops near the designated target area then they would provide air cover 'till the objective was secured. 

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It was also used extensively to transport Marine Raiders in the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atolls (Island chain next to Ima-Maroon in the Formasa Straights) and then the P-38s would take off to attack and surpress Japanese positions. 

Just do a Google search for Formasa Straights - Battle of Ima-Maroon and Ima-Idjeeit and read for yourself.  You can also search YouTube (I would but access to YouTube is blocked at work) for Battle of Ima-Idjeeit and you'll see a 3 minute video of Marine Raiders and ParaRaiders being loaded into these pods before the battle's start.


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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2010, 08:47:21 PM »
It was also used extensively to transport Marine Raiders in the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atolls (Island chain next to Ima-Maroon in the Formasa Straights) and then the P-38s would take off to attack and surpress Japanese positions.  

Just do a Google search for Formasa Straights - Battle of Ima-Maroon and Ima-Idjeeit and read for yourself.  You can also search YouTube (I would but access to YouTube is blocked at work) for Battle of Ima-Idjeeit and you'll see a 3 minute video of Marine Raiders and ParaRaiders being loaded into these pods before the battle's start.


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I did, read lots of pretty cool info,  but come on, my idea for the pod is better than yours to bring troops to town.  btw thanks for letting us know about this, really had no idea how widely it was used, and if i had been one of the troops, it would have been my life long mission to find the engineers that designed it, stuck them in  a barrel and throw them over the Niagara falls.  

You know why?  I work in a steel mill and the engineering department did some modificationtions to two pillars that support our overhead cranes to allow additional space for a new furnace.  All crane operators refused to go even close to the two pillars, until the engineer who designed the modification would go up in the crane to prove that it was safe, he refused till additional work he had requested but had been denied was done.  keep in mind our cranes can lift 50 tons.

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2010, 08:52:15 PM »
and if i had been one of the troops, it would have been my life long mission to find the engineers that designed it, stuck them in  a barrel and throw them over the Niagara falls.  

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Why do you think the plexiglass nose was added?  The first pods were completely enclosed and those that rode in them likened it to be what it would probably be like in Hell and some even threatened to actually find the engineers and force them to ride in them.  After the engineers heard these complaints and thinly veiled threats, the plexiglass nose was added.

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2010, 08:54:16 PM »
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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2010, 09:04:43 PM »
Why do you think the plexiglass nose was added?  The first pods were completely enclosed and those that rode in them likened it to be what it would probably be like in Hell and some even threatened to actually find the engineers and force them to ride in them.  After the engineers heard these complaints and thinly veiled threats, the plexiglass nose was added.

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man the more you add the more you confirm that my idea is better.  Why do you think all blenders have a glass cup?  to make sure the margarita's have been properly mixed  :cheers:.  I have been listening on 200 since I joined ah for the need for p38's to have a blender.  Oh wait, you said two pods?  yahoo, one for regular margaritas the other for strawberry margaritas.

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2010, 01:30:08 PM »
do show ME how to put a B29 in the game without stretching every runway to twice the length already and revamping the terrain around every airbase in every map and therefore rebuilding every airfield design also AAAND even in some cases putting land where a whole lotta water is...

I agree even with the length of the large airfields it almost take's 99.99% of the runway to lift a Lancaster in the Air and that's with auto take-off on. Outch imagine a B29 it would be a case of eh sorry Sir we hit the tree's on take-off.  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2010, 01:49:51 PM »
I agree even with the length of the large airfields it almost take's 99.99% of the runway to lift a Lancaster in the Air and that's with auto take-off on. Outch imagine a B29 it would be a case of eh sorry Sir we hit the tree's on take-off:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2010, 02:10:36 PM »
It was also used extensively to transport Marine Raiders in the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atolls (Island chain next to Ima-Maroon in the Formasa Straights) and then the P-38s would take off to attack and surpress Japanese positions. 

Just do a Google search for Formasa Straights - Battle of Ima-Maroon and Ima-Idjeeit and read for yourself.  You can also search YouTube (I would but access to YouTube is blocked at work) for Battle of Ima-Idjeeit and you'll see a 3 minute video of Marine Raiders and ParaRaiders being loaded into these pods before the battle's start.

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Ok Ack-Ack, I did the searches and can't find any videos or references other than the photo you posted. Again, that photo shows the plane had no guns on it. If that was the typical case, fighting its way in and out is not happening.
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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2010, 02:22:59 PM »
I had no clue it would take you so long to sell the idea AKAK.  I don't know how many more factual resources these guys need.... :noid
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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2010, 02:43:18 PM »
Ok Ack-Ack, I did the searches and can't find any videos or references other than the photo you posted. Again, that photo shows the plane had no guns on it. If that was the typical case, fighting its way in and out is not happening.

Here is the link to the YouTube video I was mentioning.

In this video, two Marine ParaRaiders (Marine airborne troops) are being loaded into the pods on a P-38H (notice the guns on it) prior to the P-38H taxiing for take off prior to the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atoll near Formosa.

Marine ParaRaiders loading into transport pods prior to the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atoll 5/11/1944

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2010, 02:45:17 PM »
I had no clue it would take you so long to sell the idea AKAK.  I don't know how many more factual resources these guys need.... :noid

No kidding, I guess it's gonna have to take a YouTube video to convince 'em.

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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2010, 02:50:37 PM »
Here is the link to the YouTube video I was mentioning.

In this video, two Marine ParaRaiders (Marine airborne troops) are being loaded into the pods on a P-38H (notice the guns on it) prior to the P-38H taxiing for take off prior to the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atoll near Formosa.

Marine ParaRaiders loading into transport pods prior to the Battle of Ima-Idjeeit Atoll 5/11/1944

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LMAO...ok. If you had mentioned "Marine ParaRaiders" the first time it might have tipped me off better.



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Re: Ability for P-38 to carry troops
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2010, 03:04:20 PM »
LMAO...ok. If you had mentioned "Marine ParaRaiders" the first time it might have tipped me off better.



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you're a former marine, right?  Surprised you never heard of the Pararaiders from WW2, these were the Marine Raiders that were airborne qualified and actually performed a few drops in the Pacific (think in New Britain or New Guinea).  There were also referred to as "Paramarines" and along with the regular Marine Raiders, disbanded in 1944.

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