Porking Hangers, Another View

[Jayhawk]

The people that take the time to get up to 20+k to defend against bombers, and high attack planes are just called   "ALT MONKIES" BY THE bombers so it all evens out.

ab8aac
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I'd say there is a bit of a difference, lol.  Let's compare the number of toolshedding threads on these forum to the number of "fighters are shooting at my bombers" whines.

[DREDIOCK]

The people that take the time to get up to 20+k to defend against bombers, and high attack planes are just called   "ALT MONKIES" BY THE bombers so it all evens out.

ab8aac
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I think your missing my point. It isnt about nicknames and whats commonly called what. I just used the names for common refrence. Pretty much no matter what your doing. Everything I listed is "fighting"
The problem isnt with bombers shutting down hangars. Thats only temporary anyway. the problem is people complaining about hangars being shut down but people that are too lazy to try and stop the bombers. Im sure of the hundreds of people that are in the big arenas at any given time. Not all of them are up for just a quick flight or two. Of those that arent. If your too lazy to do your part to try and stop the bombers and just always leave it for someone else.
Then you deserve have our hangars shut down and have no room to complain because your part of your own problem.

Pretty much everything that people complain about that other people do is preventable cept the hoard warriors and 2 country Vs 1 gangbang.
Even ENY cant adequately even the playing field when the numbers are 4 or 5-1.

But everything else is defensible if your not too lazy to do something about it.

[DREDIOCK]

I'd say there is a bit of a difference, lol.  Let's compare the number of toolshedding threads on these forum to the number of "fighters are shooting at my bombers" whines.

Again. completely preventable if your not too lazy to stop it.

shoot the bombers down before they reach the toolshed and there is no busted toolshed.

Just like they did in real life

[DrBone1]

another useless thread sigh.

[Rino]

Again. completely preventable if your not too lazy to stop it.

shoot the bombers down before they reach the toolshed and there is no busted toolshed.

Just like they did in real life

     Laziness has very little to do with it.  A high alt bomber hitting a frontline field is coming in at high
speed at alt.  Unless you are alt monkeying your own field, you simply don't have time to grab and run
it down before he waffles the field.

     Since bombing accuracy doesn't suffer from wind or sight accuracy troubles, it's not really an even
contest.  This isn't a whine, just logic.  If the kid wants to pee in your pool, might as well let him. 
15 minutes later his work is done anyway.

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we need a "right over the head smiley"

[Jayhawk]

Again. completely preventable if your not too lazy to stop it.

shoot the bombers down before they reach the toolshed and there is no busted toolshed.

Just like they did in real life

You missed my point, I was just laughing at what dmdchief was saying.  I understand what you mean, I fly bombers a lot myself and see no problem with dropping the hangers at a base.  I know a lot of us 91st guys also like bomber hunting as well.  Even two or three of us can put up a decent defense against a couple bombers coming in to a field, it's not impenetrable but it can reduce effectiveness and keep the hangers up.  If it's a large mission than you can usually see it coming from a ways away.  I'd say the most dangerous is 2-4 bomber formations flying together.  It's enough to take down a field in one pass, while still having a strong defensive guns, but without a huge darbar.

[Dragon]

This morning I felt like going for a bomber run or two. 

I logged into Orange and studied the map, looking for a good target.  The Knight strat factories, while not too far away, were completely surrounded by tightly grouped airfields and GV bases 3-4 deep with nearly 100% radar coverage for three or four sectors in every direction.  Thinking this would invite too much trouble I looked at the Rook side of the map.  The strats were half a world away from the nearest Bish base and I didn't want to spend three hours getting to the target.

This left me one choice, hitting airfields or GV bases.

The Bish appeared to be hoarding bases so I decided my effort wasn't needed there and since I was, as always, flying alone, hitting a town somewhere else made no sense.  That left me with hitting the fields themselves.

OK, I found a field that the Knights were using to spawn GV's and fly aircraft against a Bish GV base.  Perfect.  A field chosen now the question was what to hit.  Ord, troops, fuel (not really a viable option) or, wait... hangers!  Yes!  If I could drop the fighter hangers then those pesky fighters wouldn't be able to come up and bother me.  Then I could hit the GV hanger to help our GV defense.  It was such a natural choice and flying a formation of Lancasters I could easily drop an entire large airfield.

Well, that's what I did... twice.

Granted there were no furballs going at the base I hit but there were Bish GV's there and aircraft attacking them, and, as I said, launching from there against a Bish GV base.  Once the hangers went down though more Bish swarmed in, then, as the fighter hangers re-upped the fight dissipated leaving just the Bish GV's and attacking enemy aircraft.

Anyway, with the recent advents of strat targets being moved to the hinterlands and radar covering 100% of approach paths I think losing hangers will become more and more prevalent.  Could I have gone for ord?  Sure, but a single fighter can take ord out in a single sortie.  I wouldn't need to fly heavies for that.

So next time you wonder why bombers are taking out the hangers and ruining a furball just remember, it's the only viable taget they have left.

Well put Baldy.  I would have to agree with ya on this one.  If an ongoing furball is taking place between 2 or 3 fields, we tend to leave them alone.  But, strategically necessary bases for "winning the war" are always a viably target of opportunity.

Base taking like this normally provides a second location for the furballers and gv'ers to entertain each other.


good post, and well played.   

[Ack-Ack]

     Laziness has very little to do with it.  A high alt bomber hitting a frontline field is coming in at high
speed at alt.  Unless you are alt monkeying your own field, you simply don't have time to grab and run
it down before he waffles the field.

     Since bombing accuracy doesn't suffer from wind or sight accuracy troubles, it's not really an even
contest.  This isn't a whine, just logic.  If the kid wants to pee in your pool, might as well let him. 
15 minutes later his work is done anyway.

Honestly, Drediock is correct.  We expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes but we 'furballers' aren't following our own advice.  With the increased 'dar coverage there is no more excuse as to why a side couldn't up a DEFCAP to intercept the high altitude bombers.  The furballers need to get out of the mindless furballing mentality and realize that the game play dynamics have changed and now one must think with an offensive and defensive mindset.  That means flying more escort missions, fighter sweeps, DEFCAPs and intercepts.  Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past, so is mindless furballing.

ack-ack

[Jayhawk]

Honestly, Drediock is correct.  We expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes but we 'furballers' aren't following our own advice.  With the increased 'dar coverage there is no more excuse as to why a side couldn't up a DEFCAP to intercept the high altitude bombers.  The furballers need to get out of the mindless furballing mentality and realize that the game play dynamics have changed and now one must think with an offensive and defensive mindset.  That means flying more escort missions, fighter sweeps, DEFCAPs and intercepts.  Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past, so is mindless furballing.

ack-ack

Almost makes you think HTC knows what they are doing. 

[jay]

Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past

ack-ack

hey if someone out there is possible to get people at 65feet (over water to a shore base) then its possible!!

[froger]

Fixed.


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those are crappy doughnuts 

[Ardy123]

personally I think there should be three bases on each map that can NOT be taken, for those that want to Fight......

Agreed, like the air bases in TT

[Ardy123]

Honestly, Drediock is correct.  We expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes but we 'furballers' aren't following our own advice.  With the increased 'dar coverage there is no more excuse as to why a side couldn't up a DEFCAP to intercept the high altitude bombers.  The furballers need to get out of the mindless furballing mentality and realize that the game play dynamics have changed and now one must think with an offensive and defensive mindset.  That means flying more escort missions, fighter sweeps, DEFCAPs and intercepts.  Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past, so is mindless furballing.

ack-ack

I agree with this comment except that at 2am or later you will see a horde of guys taking one base. At times of low numbers a single squad can comprise the majority of one country and what happens is then they create a Horde and take bases that are impossible to defend against.

[waystin2]

Honestly, Drediock is correct.  We expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes but we 'furballers' aren't following our own advice.  With the increased 'dar coverage there is no more excuse as to why a side couldn't up a DEFCAP to intercept the high altitude bombers.  The furballers need to get out of the mindless furballing mentality and realize that the game play dynamics have changed and now one must think with an offensive and defensive mindset.  That means flying more escort missions, fighter sweeps, DEFCAPs and intercepts.  Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past, so is mindless furballing.

ack-ack

ZOMG.  I absolutely agree with what Ack-Ack is saying.  Quoted for it's truth...